 PEbuilder for Windows 95!!!, Coming soon... |
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 Jun 14 2005, 06:00 AM
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Hi. Is anybody interested if i was to make a program to build a PE environment from Windows 95? I have started making it, and I will continue and finish if there is interest in it. I would also need some beta testers...
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Jun 14 2005, 06:25 AM
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Cool - and perhaps you could knock out a square wheel and some flint tools while you're at it.
You would need NTFSDOS Pro or similar to enable read-write on NTFS and the interface was only good at the time because it followed Windows 3.1. Which my Mum could have made prettier. Commodore64Builder anyone? Anyone? -------------------- If it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer.
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Jun 14 2005, 06:46 AM
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Platinum Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4,582 Joined: 25-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 6,779 |
Yes, it is interesting.
However there is already an ongoing project here: http://winimize.com/ Based on Windows 98 + some files of Win 95. Maybe it would be better if you would contact the author and collaborate with him. jaclaz PS: @airburst No need to use sarcasm, dennis123123 is trying to contribute to the community. By the way the NTFS driver to choose should be the FREEWARE DATAPOL one: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=10213 -------------------- - Fighting against bloatware since 2004, and proud of it. -
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Jun 14 2005, 09:41 AM
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Thanks for the link...interesting!...
I have contacted the authur regarding this, but if anyone here knows it would be a grat help. How do you skip detecting hardware? On the winimize site it says it has been fixed, but it doesnt say how! Anyone know? It will make boot time a few seconds rather than a few minutes. Dennis. EDIT: Seems his email doesnt work... |
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Jun 14 2005, 01:35 PM
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@ dennis123123:
Love your enthusiasm! I'm sure any project you decide upon will be fun to try. @airburst: love your humor! laughed outloud. DW 
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Jun 14 2005, 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the comments, but does anyone know how to stop the hardware detection?
Or does anyone have updated email address for the creator of winimize.com (mike?) |
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Jun 14 2005, 05:04 PM
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He hints in the readme that it has to do with a vxd taken from another program.
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Jun 14 2005, 05:13 PM
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Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 20-September 03 From: Earth: It's the little blue planet circling the Sun in the Milky Way Galaxy. Member No.: 1,729 |
There are at least six other win 9x based projects that are simular to the one linked to on this thread.
Google a little & you will find some neat things, but I don't think they would be legal enough to post here. -------------------- Free stuff:
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Jun 14 2005, 05:06 PM
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Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 1-May 05 Member No.: 11,712 |
If my program just copies files which you supply ie the windows 95 cd and creates its own text files - eg config etc. there is nothing illegal about it at all. I had a quick search on google but could not find anything really relevant - any links would be much appreciated.
Thanks. Dennis. |
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Jun 15 2005, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE (dennis123123 @ Jun 14 2005, 10:06 PM) I had a quick search on google but could not find anything really relevant - any links would be much appreciated. look here: http://www.lachiesadicristo.it/w98cd/page1.htm Joshua -------------------- my plugin homepage:
http://www.drowaelder.de/winpe/PEIndex.htm |
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Jun 15 2005, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (hilander999 @ Jun 14 2005, 10:04 PM) He hints in the readme that it has to do with a vxd taken from another program.  Anyone able to elaborate further on this? Or any method of stopping hardware detection completely? |
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Jun 15 2005, 05:05 PM
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http://www.etek.chalmers.se/~e8gus/nano98/
http://www.winimize.com/ http://www.lachiesadicristo.it/w98cd/page1.htm http://www.thetechguide.com/forum/index.ph...=windows95+live http://www.heise.de/ct/english/99/11/206/ http://www.romulus2.com/forum/showthread.p...;threadid=10415 http://www.nelliott.demon.co.uk/distribute...ndows_diskless/ That was all the links I have on this topic This post has been edited by jaclaz: Jul 7 2008, 06:31 AM -------------------- Developer of The_GUI project - The GPL-ed Unbelievably Ignored project
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Jun 15 2005, 06:13 PM
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 Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 14-April 05 From: Azores Member No.: 11,428 |
The idea seems promissing, I was hoping to shrink down bart pe in 35Mb, I've reached about 26Mb, but lost praticaly all functions...
Booting a windows 95/98 really seems tempting indeed. I think I'll give it a shot too! 
-------------------- Active WinBuilder projects:
LiveXP - bootable XP/2003 sized sized 31Mb~70Mb using explorer as shell - screenshot VistaPE - project targeted to customize WindowsPE 2.0 - website/screenshots ReactOS - Bootable CD based on ReactOS liveCD (Open Source OS compatible with Windows apps) - screenshot PicoXP - A project targeted to create Windows XP based boot disks sized in 14Mb |
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Jun 15 2005, 09:14 PM
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Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 20-September 03 From: Earth: It's the little blue planet circling the Sun in the Milky Way Galaxy. Member No.: 1,729 |
I have the 9x ramwin & win3.1 images as boot options for bcdw.
Both have thier uses. I't pretty cool to have a simple core operating system for replacing a file needed by windows. Both boot in a fraction of the time bartpe does. (for obvious reasons) But if you don't need "the power of Bart", they are nice to have. I found this to be very interesting... QUOTE Let me put in a plug for Winternal's Paragon software. With a single .vxd file from Paragon, added to a an 8 Meg Mindows installation, it is possible to access Windows XP drives, and effect repairs on these disks. he also updated the download today, get it before it disappears. http://winimize.com/new.html
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Jun 16 2005, 10:00 AM
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Platinum Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4,582 Joined: 25-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 6,779 |
There are some more links, find them in these posts of mine:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=7680 http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=10623 (most are duplicates of those already posted) As said, the Qualystem Registry redirector is useful (minimal RAMDISK=Minimum boot time). Moreover, if I remember correctly, there is an option to make a "driverless" minimal install image, that consequently has not optiized access to devices, but is enough to run the Datapol NTFS4DOS. Also, for recovery purposes, you might want to check this freeware (reader only): http://diskinternals.com/products/ntfs-reader/ the good thing is that can image an NTFS disk from Win9x. jaclaz -------------------- - Fighting against bloatware since 2004, and proud of it. -
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Jun 16 2005, 12:38 PM
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Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 1-May 05 Member No.: 11,712 |
Some nice links there! What is this Qualystem Registry redirector thing? It sounds good.
EDIT: and Qualystem Rescue is not free now, it says they are 'evolving' so no free products anymore! This post has been edited by dennis123123: Jun 16 2005, 12:39 PM |
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Jun 16 2005, 01:01 PM
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Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 20-September 03 From: Earth: It's the little blue planet circling the Sun in the Milky Way Galaxy. Member No.: 1,729 |
@jaclaz
Do you have a copy of the old download for Qualystem Rescue? Any chance of sending it to me? -------------------- Free stuff:
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Jun 16 2005, 02:17 PM
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Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 319 Joined: 1-May 05 Member No.: 11,712 |
@jaclaz
Yeah if you have a copy of the old free version could you send it to me too please! Thanks! |
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Jun 16 2005, 02:38 PM
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@jaclaz
i would be interested too to test a copy of the free version. For some tasks it would be helpfull to have a system that is booting a lot faster... |
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Jun 17 2005, 12:33 AM
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Platinum Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 20-September 03 From: Earth: It's the little blue planet circling the Sun in the Milky Way Galaxy. Member No.: 1,729 |
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