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> What Program to build a CDFS Partition 1 ?, And FAT For Partition 2 on USB Key 2 ?
bruce lee
post Nov 17 2005, 12:55 PM
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Hi All,

I search a program free or to buy :

A) To build on an Usb Key of 1 Go :

1) Partition 1 in CDFS of 4 Mo to Launch "Autorun.ini"

2) Partition 2 in FAT of 994 Mo

Or

cool.gif To build an Usb Key which can launch "autorun.ini" like a CD

Anybody have an idea ?

Thanks !!!
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Rangermd
post May 22 2006, 10:18 AM
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Hello:

I am interested in solving the same problem. I was curious if you have had any success? I have been doing a lot of searching/research without any luck so far.

Thanks,

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jaclaz
post May 22 2006, 10:39 AM
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The problem is that you need BOTH an ENABLED controller, one that actually allows for the CDFS + standard R/W filesystem AND the specific "production tool". (hardware+software)

The matter is discussed here:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=14292&st=20

related to Oti Controllers.

The Autorun.ini has been discussed here:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=13205



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krazynesphreak
post May 28 2006, 04:04 PM
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what do you mean by CDFS do you mean compact disk file system??? or dose it mean something eles, because how are you going to put a compact disk file system on a partition table and why?
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bruce lee
post May 30 2006, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE (krazynesphreak @ May 28 2006, 09:04 PM) *
what do you mean by CDFS do you mean compact disk file system??? or dose it mean something eles, because how are you going to put a compact disk file system on a partition table and why?


CDFS is use by "U3 Key" and I want to build it with a Classic Flash Key.
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post May 30 2006, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE (bruce lee @ May 30 2006, 05:01 PM) *
CDFS is use by "U3 Key" and I want to build it with a Classic Flash Key.


more information on this please?
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bruce lee
post Jun 17 2006, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (krazynesphreak @ May 30 2006, 11:59 PM) *
more information on this please?


You have info at my first Post !!!
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krazynesphreak
post Jun 17 2006, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE (bruce lee @ Jun 17 2006, 03:01 PM) *
You have info at my first Post !!!


mmm... no, if I understood it then I won't ask. I have never seen this before
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bruce lee
post Jun 17 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (krazynesphreak @ Jun 17 2006, 03:21 PM) *
mmm... no, if I understood it then I won't ask. I have never seen this before


Hi All,

I search a program free or to buy :

A) To build on an Usb Key of 1 Go :

1) Partition 1 in CDFS of 4 Mo to Launch "Autorun.ini" <== Info 1

2) Partition 2 in FAT of 994 Mo <== Info 2

Or

To build an Usb Key which can launch "autorun.ini" like a CD

Anybody have an idea ?

Thanks !!!
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krazynesphreak
post Jun 17 2006, 01:29 PM
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like I said it dosen't make any sense. I have no Idea why you want to put a CDFS on a hard disk partiton table. from what I remember back when I used windows is you could autorun something from a thumbdrive, so why and how would you want to put a CDFS on it????
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post Jun 17 2006, 01:56 PM
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@krazynesphreak
There are sticks with a "SPECIAL" controller that are seen from windows as TWO devices:
1) first is a (Read Only) CD
2) second is a Mass Storage Device

Read the thread I previously linked to:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=14292&st=20

What bruce lee wants to do is, as far as I know, IMPOSSIBLE, unless the stick's controller has this possibility.

It is however possible, with the tool from the manufacturer, on SOME of more common sticks to change through software the controller features as to divide the stick in two partitions of which the first one is read only and the second one is a "normal" R/W one.
Of course both partitions are formatted with a "HD compatible" file system, such as FAT or FAT32.

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krazynesphreak
post Jun 17 2006, 02:02 PM
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OH, ok
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pmshah
post Jun 23 2006, 03:22 PM
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Transcent thumb drives currently available here in India include such a utility to have 2 oartitions on it.
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post Sep 7 2006, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Jun 17 2006, 07:56 PM) *
@krazynesphreak
There are sticks with a "SPECIAL" controller that are seen from windows as TWO devices:
1) first is a (Read Only) CD
2) second is a Mass Storage Device

Read the thread I previously linked to:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...14292&st=20

What bruce lee wants to do is, as far as I know, IMPOSSIBLE, unless the stick's controller has this possibility.

It is however possible, with the tool from the manufacturer, on SOME of more common sticks to change through software the controller features as to divide the stick in two partitions of which the first one is read only and the second one is a "normal" R/W one.
Of course both partitions are formatted with a "HD compatible" file system, such as FAT or FAT32.
jaclaz


If the sticks controller allows a CD-ROM partition , as some of the newer Oti-chips do , the CD-rom
partition will show as RAW or CDFS. In "device-manager" it even appears as a CD-RW drive!
This is EXACTLY what u3-sticks do and LockitEasy
identifys my stick (Sandisk Cruzer micro 1GB u3) as having a Oti 5406 controller (and that doesn't
seem to exist), The PID is also 5406 , but it seems like you can set that to whatever you like ?
The PID is 0781.
I'm wondering how many different makes of controllers are there? are they just made by the same
2-3 company's and then re-branded or ??

But heres the good part :
You can make your own ISO and load it (or should that be "burn"?) to the CD-ROM on your u3 stick !!
Until the production-tools surface you will have to stay within the size of the existing CD-ROM partition
but that still gives you 6MB to "play with".

http://www.cse.msstate.edu/~rwm8/hackingU3/

I haven't tried if the Oti production-tool recognizes the Sandisk Cruzer yet , but I don't expect it to.
It would be REAL nice to have the original Sandisk production-tool
or ANY u3 production-tools for that matter as these drives have some interesting features
and seem to be reasonably priced.
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