MinLogon and Reatogo, how to?, Is it possible? Options

[pavel]

Hi all,

my question is if it is possible (and if YES - how to do) use MinLogon under ReatogoXPE (replace WinLogon -> MinLogon).

MinLogon is a part of WinXP Embeddded, I have Embedded Studio SP2 (SP1 -> upgrade to SP2), my MinLogon is 17kB (the biggest and latest one i found in embedded repository). I use this post (by SFiorito):

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=37724

I made a reg file contains

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]"Config"=dword:00000017

I converted it to inf file, made plugin zzz-MinLogon.inf to be sure this would be the last one used by Reatogo, replaced WinLogon.exe in \i386\system32 by my minlogon.exe (renamed to winlogon.exe).

When i boot this Reatogo, it reboots when graphics is set, before i can see anything else then a backround of "desktop".

Anybody can help me, please?

Pavel

[pavel]

Do you think it would be usefull?

Anybody help me, please?

Pavel

[d4vr0s]

Not using Reatogo here, still doing it manually.
Having said that, I've included the minlogon into my build without any negative results.
Using this plugin:

CODE

; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF
; Created by d4vr0s
; http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=37724
; 2006-01-02

[Version]
Signature="$Windows NT$"

[PEBuilder]
Name="MinLogon"
Enable=1

[SourceDisksFiles]
files\MinLogon.exe=2,WINLOGON.EXE

[Software.AddReg]
0x4,"Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon","Config",0x17

[pavel]

@ d4vr0s

Not using Reatogo here, still doing it manually.

Do you mean you use BartPE (Nu2Menu) or use Reatogo?

It is strange, becouse i cann't see any differences between your and my way ... Is your minlogon.exe 17 kB?

So, i will try it.

Regards,
Pavel

[d4vr0s]

I use pebuilder with XPE and my own wrapper script.

[pavel]

Yeah, so i think for this goal it could be the same (XPE plugin versus Reatogo pack).

Thanks you.
Pavel

[Dhilip]

@pavel

Thanks for your minlogon.exe, i tried on a regular copy of windows.
it logon as "SYSTEM" and it no limitations, and themes service is works fine.

i will try this on CD later

[pavel]

Using Minlogon is not my idea, but you know it :-)

i will try this on CD later

Do you mean a BartPE/Reatogo or WinXP source CD? Pay attention if you use minlogon instead winlogon on source cd WinXP, you cann't install WinXP becouse of crash.

Pavel

[Dhilip]

Using Minlogon is not my idea, but you know it :-)
Do you mean a BartPE/Reatogo or WinXP source CD? Pay attention if you use minlogon instead winlogon on source cd WinXP, you cann't install WinXP becouse of crash.

Pavel

That is BartPE/Reatogo/WinPE

[pavel]

@d4vr0s

Seems my problem was the wrong filename: i used (minlogon.exe renamed to) winlogon.exe instead of WINLOGON.EXE (uppercase is needed) ...

@Dhilip

Yes, it is OK ...

Pavel

[d4vr0s]

Seems my problem was the wrong filename: i used (minlogon.exe renamed to) winlogon.exe instead of WINLOGON.EXE (uppercase is needed)

That's right.

[stormal]

@pavel

Thanks for your minlogon.exe, i tried on a regular copy of windows.
it logon as "SYSTEM" and it no limitations, and themes service is works fine.

i will try this on CD later

Themes service works?

cool

I want to build mobile Systems using embedded XP and load to ROM chip & a ramdrive.

Where to get good info?

Where can I buy it, and what does Embedded XP cost?

[CWorks]

Thanks for your minlogon.exe, i tried on a regular copy of windows.
it logon as "SYSTEM" and it no limitations, and themes service is works fine.

[Dhilip]

Thanks for your minlogon.exe, i tried on a regular copy of windows.
it logon as "SYSTEM" and it no limitations, and themes service is works fine.

but i tried "XPELogon" on a regular copy too, it unable to use themes service.

[RvdH]

What benefits does replacing WinLogon with MinLogon bring?

Is it faster?

i used too setup XPE to kill WinLogon right after startup, should i keep it running now, and does this have a effect on 24h/resource limit ?

RvdH

[Dhilip]

What benefits does replacing WinLogon with MinLogon bring?

Is it faster?

i used too setup XPE to kill WinLogon right after startup, should i keep it running now, and does this have a effect on 24h/resource limit ?

RvdH

yes, that is faster.
and it does not have 24h/resource limitations.

[stormal]

What benefits does replacing WinLogon with MinLogon bring?

Is it faster?

i used too setup XPE to kill WinLogon right after startup, should i keep it running now, and does this have a effect on 24h/resource limit ?

RvdH

You'd use it not for replacing Winlogon.exe, but XPELogon.exe, I would believe.

Sure it could be used to replace Winlogon.exe for a desktop system, but that would be ill advised.

I've heard that it does not support user profiles.

I intend to rename it to xpelogon.exe for some experimentation in XPE.

I also hope to reveal just why the Themes service doesn't work in XPE.

I also have a need for building a prototype for a proprietary OEM dedicated system.

I anticipate that the price for Embedded XP is an attractive alternative solution to the relatively expensive prices of OEM XP Professional/Home.



or am I incorrect?

[RvdH]

looking at the INF posted above it really replaces WINLOGON.EXE...

Actually it's hard to imagine it would replace XPELogon as XPEinit & XPELogon depend on each other to succesfully start XPE.

RvdH

[stormal]

Ah yes,

I see you are correct

So I'm a bit confused.

So then, it can be used to replace WINLOGON.EXE in XPE and the Themes service does then work?

So I guess then that eliminating user profile resources is the key to getting the Themes service to work in XPE?

Sounds like a too easy fix, hehe.

[CWorks]

So then, it can be used to replace WINLOGON.EXE in XPE and the Themes service does then work?
no the themes service does not work in PE only in real XP

So I guess then that eliminating user profiles is the key to getting the Themes service to work in XPE?
there are no user profiles in PE

don't think theme service not working has anything to do with winlogon.exe
and XPELogon is not a replacement for winlogon
winlogon is still called

just try and remove it and you get BSOD