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jaclaz
post Feb 2 2006, 04:23 AM
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As a future expansion of my USB Pendrive booting pages:
http://home.graffiti.net/jaclaz:graffiti.n...B/USBstick.html
http://home.graffiti.net/jaclaz:graffiti.n...SB/USBfaqs.html

I plan to contribute to the community a HOWTO about changing the "Fixed" vs. "Removable" state of USB sticks.

I have solved the problem with my sticks, (OTi2168 controller) but at this point I need informations on other devices, see this:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...ic=14181&st=869

What you can do if you are willing to help:

1) Download and use on the key this tool:
http://www.wbj3000.com/checkudisk.rar
post all the info gathered

2) download and try this other tool:
http://www.cososys.com/lockiteasy.html
(hopefully it should recognize the controller)
(look In left part of the splash screen, under "Current USB drive")
post all the info gathered


EDITED: it seems like the above ONLY works with OTi Controllers, following points are re-numbered accordingly:

2) post the exact Manufacturer, Model, whatever is physically written on your USB stick, like name, serial number, etc.

3) have a close look at your stick under a strong light, on a large amount of keys it is possible, with a magnifying glass, to read the actual make/model of the Controller Chip inside it, post this info

4) If you happen to have, or know where to get, a "Production Tool" a "Recover Disk" or similar software, post info about it


Maybe, with the help of many members, it will be possible to make a correct list of correspondence and find the related tools.

Thank you in advance.

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post Feb 2 2006, 06:14 AM
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Happy to contribute to your research! smile.gif
A stick of 1 GB (USB-HDD:
VERBATIM STORE'N'GO Hi-Speed USB 2.0 Drive
"invisible" number:5291IG010583S241A2 (not sure about I/1 O/0) cool.gif

CheckUDisk output------------->
Name: Store 'n' Go (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: L:\

VID&PID: Vid_08ec&Pid_0008
Speed: high speed

VendorID: VBTM
ProductID: Store 'n' Go
Product Revision: 1.02

Vendor Description: Verbatim
Product Description: Store 'n' Go
Serial Number: 0E217750D0D228C5
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LockItEasy output------------------>
Current USB drive:

Disk size: 0 MB (yes, zero)
Serial number:
Controller: OTI 008
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I think there's no software that you don't already know cool.gif ... anyway this gives a lot of useful info:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/gtopala/about_siw.html
For the above stick:
Property Value
Type: Direct Access Device
Vendor: VBTM
Model: VBTM Store 'n' Go USB Device
Interface: USB
Revision: 1.02
Size: 1028 MBytes
Removable: Yes
Vendor Specific: PMAP1234

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P.S. I have a few other sticks/disks and shall post their data as well.
Is there a way to paste images here?
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post Feb 2 2006, 06:39 AM
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Another stick of 256 MB, mapped as two drives:
GOLD EASY DISK USB 2.0
"invisible" number: none

CheckUDisk output------------->
CheckUDisk MFC Application has encountered a problem and needs to close.
We are sorry for the inconvenience.
---------------------------------------
LockItEasy output------------------>
Current USB drive:
USB Flash Disk
Disk size: 250 MB
Public zone: 1 MB
Secure Zone: 247 MB
Serial number:
26060D3C30C7EB7A
Controller: OTI 2168
------------------------------------------
System Info double output (8MB and 246 MB):-------->
Property Value
Type: Direct Access Device
Vendor: USB
Interface: USB
Size: 8 MBytes
Removable: Yes
Vendor Specific: 

Property Value
Type: Direct Access Device
Vendor: USB
Interface: USB
Size: 246 MBytes
Removable: Yes
Vendor Specific: ø

edborg

Another stick of 256 MB (USB-FDD):
SEITEC USB Bar
"invisible" number:PR1026B 0502112 (on a sticker)
CheckUDisk output------------->
Name: USB DISK 2.0 (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: L:\

VID&PID: Vid_0d7d&Pid_1300
Speed: high speed

VendorID:
ProductID: USB DISK 2.0
Product Revision: 1.13

Vendor Description:
Product Description: USB DISK 2.0
Serial Number: 575218000057
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LockItEasy output------------------>
Current USB drive:

Disk size: 4 MB (yes, four)
Serial number:
Controller: OTI 1300
------------------------------------------
System Info output:
Property Value
Type: Direct Access Device
Model: USB DISK 2.0 USB Device
Interface: USB
Revision: 1.13
Size: 254 MBytes
Removable: Yes

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post Feb 2 2006, 06:50 AM
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An USB disk of 4 GB, with three partitions:
BTC Mobile Storage Drive 4 GB
"invisible" number: none

CheckUDisk output------------->
Name: enesyslogic (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: M:\

VID&PID: Vid_05e3&Pid_0702
Speed: high speed

VendorID: 10040A-1
ProductID: 1
Product Revision: 0811

Vendor Description:
Product Description: enesyslogic
Serial Number:
---------------------------------------
LockItEasy output------------------>
To use Lock it Easy please plug a USB drive into your computer and restart the application.
------------------------------------------
System Info output:-------->
Property Value
Type: Direct Access Device
Vendor: 10040A-1
Model: 10040A-1 1
Interface: USB
Revision: 0811
Size: 4112 MBytes
Removable: No
Vendor Specific: ã

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post Feb 2 2006, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE (edborg)
P.S. I have a few other sticks/disks and shall post their data as well.
Is there a way to paste images here?


No, but you can upload the image to a FREE server, like:
http://www.imageshack.us/
and post a link here, that would be much appreciated, expecially if you can also take a photo of the stick.

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post Feb 2 2006, 12:11 PM
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Hi jaclaz,

I have a tool called EM-UD-Vers. 1.0 for an older small USB 128MB stick as password utility. If you like I send it to you via e-mail (here is not my old 128 MB stick tested but my 1GB Tinydisk).

Written on it is "extremememory USB 2.0 1GB" (that's all).
----------------------------------------------------------

CheckUDisk.exe ->

Name: USB Mass Storage Device (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: H:\

VID&PID: Vid_0457&Pid_0151
Speed: high speed

VendorID: TinyDisk
ProductID: 2005-11-02
Product Revision: 0.00

Vendor Description:
Product Description: USB Mass Storage Device
Serial Number: 00000000000115
----------------------------------------------------------

The LockItEasy.exe ->

was not working proper, after an hour I just disconnected the stick blink.gif . But the stick is still "alive" smile.gif´

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post Feb 2 2006, 03:35 PM
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It seems like Tinydisk is a trademark of Veritech:
http://www.veritech.com.tw
http://www.veritech.com.tw/download.htm


I'll have a look at their utilities and drivers to see if I can "steal" some informations.

Could you please check if the image here:
http://www.gobeyondltd.com/products/results.asp?id=38
or the image here:
http://alisveris.tr.net/product.php?ID=153247
represent that key, or it is of this other kind:
http://www.shop4memory.com/products/usb-drive-tinydisk.asp

or is it this "extremememory" kind:
http://www.extrememory.de/
(please post a link to an actual image of the key you have)
To me it looks like they are marketing the Veritech ones....
...the classical example of how NOT to find a format utility...wink.gif


About the utility you have, yes, please send it to me via e-mail:
jaclaz_at_techemail.com

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post Feb 2 2006, 05:31 PM
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Mr MBR is asking smile.gif
I detected a OTi2168 controller too. Maybe you can use information anyway.

1)
QUOTE
Name: Flash Disk (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: F:\

VID&PID: Vid_0ea0&Pid_2168
Speed: full speed

VendorID: Generic
ProductID: USB Flash Disk
Product Revision: 2.00

Vendor Description: USB
Product Description: Flash Disk
Serial Number: 106C114160DA560D
2)
QUOTE
USB Flash Disk

Disk siue: 250 MB
Public zone only
Serial Number: 106C114160DA560D
Controller: OTI2168

3) PQI 250 MB D33311

4) not possible

5) create image, cdrtools: readcd dev=3,0,0 f=usb.img

6) SIV - System Information Viewer V3.09
Vendor 0x0EA0 Ours Technology
Product 0x2168 U-Storage Controller
Revision 0x0200 Revision: 0EA0:2168:0200
Manufacturer (1) "USB"
Product Name (2) "Flash Disk"
Serial Number (3) ""
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post Feb 3 2006, 03:31 AM
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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Feb 2 2006, 02:31 PM) *
No, but you can upload the image to a FREE server, like:
http://www.imageshack.us/
and post a link here, that would be much appreciated, expecially if you can also take a photo of the stick.

jaclaz

I just wondered how something like THIS can be made (I mean pasting an image in a post):
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15751&hl=

Your link could be useful for other occasions, anyway. cool.gif

For now, if you're really interested in all details of my USB storage devices (including photos) these links are even better:
http://www.verbatim.com/products/product_d...03E6C3D7EFE49F9
http://www.goldmediastore.it/iprodotti/ilc...o.php?idart=356
http://www.lindy.com/it/productfolder/04/42872/index.php
http://www.btc.com.tw/english/2-13-mobile_...ive_01.htm#Z-40
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post Feb 3 2006, 05:52 AM
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Hi jaclaz,
my stick can be found under http://www.shop4memory.com/products/usb-drive-tinydisk.asp. It looks exactly like these.

The tool is on it's way to you.

Best regards

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post Feb 3 2006, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE (edborg)
I just wondered how something like THIS can be made (I mean pasting an image in a post):


You insert a tag in the body of your post, by pressing the 8th button from left in the tool bar you get when posting:
1 = Bold
2 = Italic
3 = Underlined
4 = Stroken
5 = Text color
6 = Insert Link
7 = Insert Email
8 = Insert Image
9= Quote
10 = Code

then you give to the popup full Http address of the image.

An example:
you will see something like the following, which is actually written in the post:
CODE
[img]http://www.obana.ee/falcon/image001.gif[/img]


but once it is posted, it will appear as:


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post Feb 3 2006, 06:17 AM
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Flash Voyager
1GB 546CAT0

CheckUDisk
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Name: USB Mass Storage Device (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: I:\

VID&PID: Vid_067b&Pid_2517
Speed: high speed

VendorID: Corsair
ProductID: Flash Voyager
Product Revision: 1.00

Vendor Description: Prolific Technology Inc.
Product Description: USB Mass Storage Device
Serial Number:

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LockItEasy
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Disk Size: 0 MB
Serial Number:
Controller: OTI 2517


------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Kingston DataTravler ELITE 1GB
4481G055405E234C1
9930421-001 A00
KUSBDT/1G Assy in China

CheckUDisk
--------------

Name: DT Elite HS 2.0 (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: J:\

VID&PID: Vid_08ec&Pid_0015
Speed: high speed

VendorID: Kingston
ProductID: DT Elite HS 2.0
Product Revision: 5.02

Vendor Description: Kingston
Product Description: DT Elite HS 2.0
Serial Number: 08E1AB4032D07B3B

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LockItEasy
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Disk Size: 0 MB
Serial Number:
Controller: OTI 0015
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post Feb 3 2006, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Feb 3 2006, 11:53 AM) *
You insert a tag in the body of your post, by pressing the 8th button from left in the tool bar you get when posting:

Sorry for asking, I should have known better! unsure.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 6 2006, 04:52 PM
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@Jaclaz,

Remember this, this and this information about SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 Gb. Please, tell me if you need any more.

Forte abbraccio biggrin.gif ,

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post Feb 8 2006, 05:10 AM
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@Kachoperro

During my wanderings on the net, I just happened to find the Sandisk Format utility smile.gif , buried in a "forgotten" page on Sandisk site:
http://www.sandisk.com/Oem/DesignSupportTools/
http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/OEM/Des...b-test-tool.exe

Maybe, just maybe, is what you need. wink.gif

@all
From the reports till now gathered it appears that the Lockiteasy program only works on OTi controller based sticks, I am editing out first post, hoping I will soon find a more complete "property listing" tool besides checkUdisk.


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post Feb 9 2006, 03:03 PM
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@jaclaz

Bad luck. These are the results:

Read test: OK (4 h. time of process blink.gif ).
Write Test: Fail.
Quick format: No media or write error.
Full format: No media or write error.

Well, definitively, I will include it in my particular museum of broken toys smile.gif .

One more time, thank you very much. Greetings,

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Here's the info on my two:

CODE
Name: USB Flash Memory  (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: Q:\

VID&PID: Vid_0930&Pid_6533
Speed: high speed

VendorID:  
ProductID: USB Flash Memory
Product Revision: 1.00

Vendor Description:
Product Description: USB Flash Memory
Serial Number:


PNY Technologies
Attache 512M
Made in Taiwan

THNU3512AWS1E7
05438WK6990311


CODE
Name: LEXR PLUG DRIVE  (USB1.1)

Logic Driver: Q:\

VID&PID: Vid_05dc&Pid_0080
Speed: full speed

VendorID: LEXAR
ProductID: DIGITAL FILM
Product Revision: /W1.

Vendor Description: LEXR PLUG DRIVE
Product Description: LEXR PLUG DRIVE
Serial Number: F117421024110315AA  0000000000000000000000000


LEXAR Media
JumpDrive
64MB
Made in China

FC1616-TC-AF
MGRMT-LX714AF
0334
Taiwan

SAMSUNG 343
K9F1208U0M
YCB0

hth


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post Feb 11 2006, 12:00 PM
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Member Sabre has attached the ORIGINAL boot utility for LEXAR jumpdrives in this thread:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15923&hl=

GOOD WORK!

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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Feb 11 2006, 06:00 PM) *
Member Sabre has attached the ORIGINAL boot utility for LEXAR jumpdrives in this thread:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=15923&hl=

GOOD WORK!

jaclaz


Yeah jaclaz thanks for crediting me m8.

I must stress though that the only drive i used it on so far is the 128 mb elite v1.x jumpdrive and i
cannot confirm if this works with other sticks of lexar. Other users should report if possible.
(it was neccessary to use it because on the 824 bios version of DFI Lanparty UT-D NFORCE 3 the
stick wouldnt boot and would freeze the computer if tried to boot from it, different mobos/chipsets
and bios versions may have varying results):

jaclaz info tool report:
Name: JUMPDRIVE ELITE (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: I:\

VID&PID: Vid_05dc&Pid_a400
Speed: high speed

VendorID: LEXAR
ProductID: JUMPDRIVE ELITE
Product Revision: 1000

Vendor Description: LEXAR MEDIA
Product Description: JUMPDRIVE ELITE
Serial Number: 0A4EEC*************** (censored)
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Hi jaclaz,

here are the Infos from my Sticks:

1. Prolific Leading Driver UD15, 512 MB, USB 1.1

QUOTE
Name: USB Mass Storage Device (USB1.1)

Logic Driver: L:\

VID&PID: Vid_067b&Pid_2317
Speed: full speed

VendorID: Prolific
ProductID: USB Flash Disk
Product Revision: 1.00

Vendor Description: Leading Driver Co.,LTD.
Product Description: USB Mass Storage Device
Serial Number:
The Vendor has a Tool, which with i can format the Stick as FIXED or as REMOVABLE.

http://www.leadingdriver.com.tw/fdownloads...4a0e1c9f66a2f07



this tool can only read Leading Driver Sticks, while the Stick comes with a Security Device (password protected Partition)

2. Buffalo FireStix RUF2-R4G-S, 4GB, USB 2.0 HighSpeed

http://www.buffalo-technology.com/products...p?productid=120

QUOTE
Name: USB Flash Disk (USB2.0)

Logic Driver: K:\

VID&PID: Vid_0411&Pid_008a
Speed: high speed

VendorID: BUFFALO
ProductID: USB Flash Disk
Product Revision: 2.00

Vendor Description: BUFFALO
Product Description: USB Flash Disk
Serial Number: C01520000000405D


The Tool LockItEasy ident the Buffalo Stick as Stick with OTI 008A Controller



Both Stick I can't see in ProductionTool Multi-Device.

I have created for the Buffalo Stick a 008aPT.SET an created a RecoverDisk.exe, a the RecoverDisk.exe breaks with an error.

QUOTE ( 008aPT.SET )
[Device]
SCSIVID=BUFFALO
SCSIPID=USB Flash Disk
DiskType=1
CheckFlshSize=0
FlashSize0=0
FlashSize1=0
FlashSize2=0
FlashSize3=0
FlashSize4=0
FlashSize5=0
FlashSize6=0
FlashSize7=0
CheckFlashBB=0
RWTestPercent=0
DiskLabel=Stick
[LEDMode]
BusyLEDMode_1=2
IdleLEDMode_1=1
SuspendLEDMode_1=0
BusyLEDMode_2=2
IdleLEDMode_2=1
SuspendLEDMode_2=0
BusyLEDMode_3=3
IdleLEDMode_3=3
SuspendLEDMode_3=0
BusyLEDMode_4=0
IdleLEDMode_4=0
SuspendLEDMode_4=0
[Advance]
ECCMode=2
FWVersion=2.00
ReserveSize=0
SecuritySize=0
USBVID=0411
USBPID=008a
USBManufStr=BUFFALO
USBProduStr=USB Flash Disk
PowerConsumption=200
LibAccID=
ProdNum=
FlexiblePage=0
[SN]
ChangeSerialNumber=1
NotChgExist=1
SNUserDefine=C01520000000405D
SNDecimalism=0
SNBaseNum=0000000000000000
[Copy]
SourceFolder=

[Partition]
Password=
PartitionMode=0
CopyDirPub1=
PubSize1=0
ReadOnlyPub1=0
CopyDirSec=
SecSize=0
ReadOnlySec=0
CopyDirPub2=
ReadOnlyPub2=0
PartitionMBR=1
[ChipOption]
2167BBToler=3
EnableCDROM=0
CDImgPath=
2166BBToler=33

I have one Question:
You says in your xls File:

QUOTE ( oti_tool_pre01.xls )
Disk type=1 FIXED
Disk type=0 REMOVABLE


in M$ USB FAQ stays:
QUOTE
A RMB (Removable Media Bit ) set to zero indicates that the device is not a removable media device. A RMB of one indicates that the device is a removable media device.
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