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post Aug 6 2006, 07:52 PM
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I'm no expert but here's something I put together from my experience. I couldn't find anything complete on this forum; there is a lot of information here but it's in bits and pieces. I used much of jaclaz and Ed_P's posts to figure out how to install BartPE to a partition other than Windows XP. Thanks jaclaz and Ed_P.

You won't have to use any MBR writing program or HEX edit anything.

The partition must be a primary partition.

Requirements: Bart’s PE Builder 3.1.1.0a and grldr, which is a Grub4Dos file. Do a search to download Grub.

This is a general guide. Depending on your needs, you may change your setup.

1) Build BartPE

First, build your BartPE the way you want. It works with Sherya’s XPE plugin flawlessly.

I don’t think the size matters since we are not going to load the actual ISO. You actually don’t have to build the ISO since peinst does not use the ISO to copy the files to [Part].

Next, format your partition. I used Windows XP format to format it as NTFS. The size is roughly that of a CD – 700 mb. I’m not sure if FAT32 works. I’m also not sure if formatting using peinst.cmd or HP utility works either. (Note that although I formatted my BartPE partition as NTFS from Windows XP, it is actually seen as a FAT partition when I load BartPE. It's strange.)

Use the peinst plugin to install you BartPE to the partition you want – referred to as [Part]. Mine is E:\ so my [Part] is E:\.

Do not rewrite the boot.ini file. We are only using peinst.cmd to copy the files to [Part]. Peinst.cmd will, of course, change I386 to minnt. That is OK. Let it do what it wants to do.

We’re done with peinst now.


2) Configuring Grub

You should have downloaded grldr. Rename your existing ntldr as ntldrxp. We are going to use ntldrxp to load Windows XP. Rename grldr to ntldr and copy that to your system partition, usually C:\ for most people. Having done this, system will load Grub (the grldr renamed as ntldr) instead of XP's ntldr. The advantage of this is you don’t have to load ntldr, then use ntldr to load grldr, then choose to load BartPE. Renaming grldr to ntldr allows you to load grldr on startup, then you can choose what you want to load. It saves an extra step. Of course, you don’t have to do this. You may try the setup you want to use. Since we are not modifying any files, this will work flawlessly.

Now, grldr uses menu.lst to display the boot options. If you followed my steps, here is what you need in your menu.lst:

CODE
color black/cyan yellow/cyan
timeout 10
default 0

title Microsoft Windows XP SP2 Pro (Find and Load)
find --set-root /ntldrxp
chainloader /ntldrxp

title BartPE with Sherpya XPE 1.0.4 (Find and Load)
find --set-root /minint/setupldr.bin
chainloader /minint/setupldr.bin

title Boot Floppy on (fd0)
chainloader (fd0)+1
rootnoverify (fd0)


The line chainloader (hd0,0)/ntldrxp loads Windows XP using the renamed ntldrxp.
We are done!

Next time you boot, you should get a Grub screen with options to boot Windows XP, BartPE, or a Floppy.

I’m not expert on this so if you have any questions, mess around and you might find the light at the end of the tunnel or post here and someone else may be able to answer.

Limitations: does not work with USB connected HDD's for me. I'm trying.

I want to be able to load CD's from this. I'm not sure if this can be done yet or not.

Good luck.
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- spacesurfer   How to Install BartPE to Another Partition   Aug 6 2006, 07:52 PM
- - jaclaz   Nice work, spacesurfer! Pretty clever idea ...   Aug 6 2006, 08:11 PM
- - Ed_P   Wow!! Very nice spacesurfer. I'm ...   Aug 6 2006, 08:48 PM
- - spacesurfer   Thanks, guys. Thanks for the tips, jaclaz. I will ...   Aug 6 2006, 09:59 PM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (spacesurfer @ Aug 6 2006, 10:59 PM...   Aug 6 2006, 10:34 PM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE (spacesurfer)Ed_P, I think you mentioned loa...   Aug 6 2006, 10:40 PM
- - hooovahh   Wow this works really well, I've always had a ...   Aug 7 2006, 12:20 PM
- - spacesurfer   Download the current version of Grub while you can...   Aug 7 2006, 02:27 PM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (spacesurfer @ Aug 7 2006, 03:27 PM...   Aug 7 2006, 09:32 PM
- - spacesurfer   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Aug 6 2006, 11:34 PM) What ...   Aug 7 2006, 08:58 PM
- - paraglider   Vista has a totally different way of booting - it ...   Aug 7 2006, 09:35 PM
- - FeReNGi   Look at this topic : http://www.911cd.net/forums//...   Aug 8 2006, 05:18 AM
- - paraglider   Only if your first partition is XP / W2003 / W2K. ...   Aug 8 2006, 08:11 AM
- - spacesurfer   Major update Read my post here to: *Boot Windows...   Aug 8 2006, 11:58 AM
|- - hooovahh   QUOTE (spacesurfer @ Aug 8 2006, 12:58 PM...   Aug 8 2006, 04:08 PM
- - cornelvis   I tried booting reatogo from a seperate disk (modu...   Aug 10 2006, 03:28 PM
- - spacesurfer   This is one of the limitations that I've notic...   Aug 15 2006, 10:28 PM
- - Ed_P   I boot BartPE on my tray IDE drive using GRLDR. I...   Aug 15 2006, 10:56 PM
- - spacesurfer   Ed_P. I tried your map (hd0) (hd1), map (hd1) (hd0...   Aug 16 2006, 09:32 AM
- - cdob   QUOTE This is one of the limitations that I've...   Aug 16 2006, 09:59 AM
- - spacesurfer   Yes, I tried the swap HDD and it worked. I beat yo...   Aug 16 2006, 10:05 AM
- - cdob   QUOTE Yes, I tried the swap HDD and it worked. I b...   Aug 16 2006, 03:27 PM
- - cornelvis   Finally got it to work. I used the grub methode an...   Aug 28 2006, 08:18 AM
- - faaip565   Question for you guys. I am trying to devise a wa...   Sep 26 2006, 06:26 AM
- - diddy   I followed the instructions in this post, renaming...   Nov 11 2006, 04:37 AM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE (diddy)I'm not sure if this would work o...   Nov 11 2006, 06:09 AM
- - diddy   Thanks for the quick response jacklaz. QUOTE The ...   Nov 11 2006, 11:55 AM
- - jaclaz   hmmm, try to experiment without the find --set-roo...   Nov 12 2006, 07:19 AM
|- - diddy   QUOTE (jaclaz @ Nov 12 2006, 12:19 PM) hm...   Nov 12 2006, 08:57 AM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE Can't figure out what is causing this be...   Nov 12 2006, 01:49 PM
- - diddy   Success at last!!! Finally succeeded i...   Nov 12 2006, 07:20 PM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE (diddy)Success at last!!! Happy...   Nov 13 2006, 04:03 AM
|- - diddy   QUOTE (jaclaz @ Nov 13 2006, 09:03 AM) I ...   Nov 13 2006, 04:07 PM
- - jaclaz   Yes, from what you write, since booting from (hd1,...   Nov 14 2006, 07:32 AM
- - diddy   @Jaclaz As you're probably already aware from...   Dec 24 2006, 07:38 AM
- - spacesurfer   Wow! I just happened to read what people have ...   Apr 19 2007, 09:01 PM
- - jaclaz   Just for the record it seems definitive that also ...   Apr 20 2007, 01:27 PM
- - VeeDub   Hi, There are a few different threads on this top...   May 30 2007, 07:59 AM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (VeeDub @ May 30 2007, 08:59 AM) Ho...   May 30 2007, 10:10 AM
|- - VeeDub   QUOTE (Ed_P @ May 31 2007, 01:10 AM) QUOT...   May 30 2007, 05:17 PM
- - Ed_P   How are you able to boot the 2nd partition now? T...   May 30 2007, 06:05 PM
|- - VeeDub   QUOTE (Ed_P @ May 31 2007, 09:05 AM) How ...   May 30 2007, 06:41 PM
|- - VeeDub   @Ed Just confirming that I have understood that t...   May 30 2007, 08:14 PM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (VeeDub @ May 30 2007, 09:14 PM) @E...   Jun 2 2007, 11:29 AM
|- - VeeDub   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 3 2007, 02:29 AM) If yo...   Jun 9 2007, 03:03 AM
- - spacesurfer   I was reading this post and noticed that in severa...   Jun 2 2007, 09:33 AM
- - Ed_P   Happy to have helped.   Jun 9 2007, 09:12 AM
- - PatrickR   Hi together, maybe someone can help me. I get a...   Jun 14 2007, 01:02 AM
- - jaclaz   QUOTE (PatrickR)Do you have any idea why I get thi...   Jun 14 2007, 01:45 PM
- - cdob   QUOTE (PatrickR)I use one HDD - 4 partition (C/D/E...   Jun 15 2007, 03:32 PM
|- - PatrickR   QUOTE (cdob @ Jun 15 2007, 03:32 PM) If y...   Jun 16 2007, 04:24 AM
- - jaclaz   Well, actually being it a logical partition makes ...   Jun 16 2007, 05:54 AM
- - Ed_P   My nb has 3 partitions (C,D,E) C: is Windows XP D:...   Jun 16 2007, 07:14 AM
- - PatrickR   Hello Ed_P, hello jaclaz, thanks for your help. ...   Jun 17 2007, 04:49 AM
- - Ed_P   Happy to hear that it works for you PatrickR. ...   Jun 17 2007, 01:56 PM
- - alanm   Hello, I tried this method, but have BartPE inst...   Jan 19 2008, 10:33 AM
- - mbarnes   Hi alanm here is an example of a boot.ini XP...   Jan 19 2008, 12:10 PM
- - jaclaz   There are some reports that the renaming of grldr ...   Jan 19 2008, 01:19 PM
- - alanm   OK, I got grldr>ntldr to work and it booted Bar...   Jan 19 2008, 01:58 PM
- - jasonc   Help!!!! (yes I am a bit desparate...   Mar 12 2008, 04:39 PM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (jasonc @ Mar 13 2008, 07:39 AM) He...   Mar 12 2008, 08:50 PM
|- - jaclaz   You may want to use (and peruse ) my makebs batch:...   Mar 13 2008, 04:49 AM
- - jasonc   ok - i said i was going to do a guide, but: http:...   Jun 9 2008, 05:04 PM
- - Ed_P   I assume you are referring to peinst? What is the...   Jun 9 2008, 10:04 PM
|- - jasonc   sorry - yesterday was a public holiday (a bit slow...   Jun 9 2008, 10:13 PM
- - jasonc   does what i'm trying to achieve make sense? it...   Jun 10 2008, 10:01 PM
- - Ed_P   Without some kind of an error msg there is no way ...   Jun 11 2008, 12:41 AM
|- - jasonc   definitely not error messages at the stage. i get ...   Jun 11 2008, 05:11 PM
- - jasonc   added echos, no errors resulted. so it possibly is...   Jun 11 2008, 05:51 PM
- - Ed_P   The process to install BartPE to a partition is ra...   Jun 11 2008, 07:20 PM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 12 2008, 10:20 AM) The ...   Jun 11 2008, 07:28 PM
- - jasonc   Update: after reading about windows crashing at t...   Jun 11 2008, 08:11 PM
- - Ed_P   Create a single line cmd file that Xcopies the I38...   Jun 11 2008, 08:12 PM
- - jasonc   process definitely works. in other words, the pei...   Jun 11 2008, 08:49 PM
- - Ed_P   Windows doesn't know the files are on a CD onl...   Jun 11 2008, 10:38 PM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 12 2008, 01:38 PM) Woul...   Jun 11 2008, 11:21 PM
- - jasonc   just come up with a thought/question is the BartP...   Jun 12 2008, 10:17 PM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 12 2008, 11:17 PM) is...   Jun 12 2008, 11:02 PM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 13 2008, 02:02 PM) QUOT...   Jun 13 2008, 12:39 AM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 13 2008, 01:39 AM) ? ...   Jun 13 2008, 07:41 AM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 13 2008, 10:41 PM) QUOT...   Jun 17 2008, 06:35 PM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 17 2008, 06:35 PM) ok...   Jun 17 2008, 08:23 PM
- - jasonc   i'll try again 1. built bartpe 2. copy regist...   Jun 22 2008, 11:39 PM
|- - jaclaz   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 23 2008, 06:39 AM) if...   Jun 23 2008, 02:49 AM
|- - Ed_P   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 23 2008, 12:39 AM) 1....   Jun 23 2008, 07:45 AM
|- - jasonc   QUOTE (Ed_P @ Jun 23 2008, 10:45 PM) Wh...   Jun 30 2008, 06:41 PM
- - cdob   QUOTE (jasonc @ Jun 9 2008, 11:04 PM) how...   Jun 23 2008, 08:08 AM
- - Squeeto   Hi Spacesurfer, Jaclaz, Ed_P My first post, sorry ...   Nov 25 2008, 11:45 PM
|- - jaclaz   QUOTE (Squeeto @ Nov 26 2008, 05:45 AM) M...   Nov 26 2008, 10:51 AM
- - Squeeto   QUOTE In what way is BartPE limited compared to a ...   Nov 26 2008, 12:23 PM
- - Squeeto   QUOTE Last question, really - XPE replaces logon b...   Nov 26 2008, 12:35 PM
- - jaclaz   Well, the whole point of a PE is that the Registry...   Nov 26 2008, 12:49 PM
- - Squeeto   Thanks. I like the simplicity of BartPE though. D...   Nov 26 2008, 01:13 PM
- - Squeeto   Spacesurfer, for fun, here is Reatogo on hard driv...   Nov 26 2008, 02:48 PM
- - Altess   Hello. First time, sorry to up this old topic. S...   Mar 9 2009, 03:31 AM
|- - jaclaz   QUOTE (Altess @ Mar 9 2009, 09:31 AM) I w...   Mar 9 2009, 07:58 AM
- - Altess   Hi Jaclaz, and thank you for your answer. QUOTE I...   Mar 9 2009, 09:31 AM
|- - jaclaz   QUOTE (Altess @ Mar 9 2009, 03:31 PM) Err...   Mar 9 2009, 01:54 PM
- - Altess   Hi Jaclaz, thank you for your help, and sorry to b...   Mar 10 2009, 04:35 AM
- - JFX   Hi Altress I don't really see what you want t...   Mar 10 2009, 03:27 PM
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