How To Recover Press F10 , F11 At Boot Up, complete instructions press F10 key system restore Options

[Ben_Mott]

I have searched the internet and it seems that this forum (bootable Cd)is the only place
that has information on this subject.I am going to copy it here as it is to do with XP

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=14127

how to restore ghost image from a hiden fat32 partition using F10 or F11 at boot up.

you need TEST this on your Test machine first please although i have done it and it works OK
1. ghost.exe(7 or 8 so they can handle NTFS partitions of XP)
I have mine on interactive floppy posted earlier, but you can have it on its own on a floppy

2. GDISK.exe (comes with ghost small prog like fdisk but more powerful)
I put mine on my win 98 boot disk, for convinence.
3. windows 98 BOOT floppy
http://www.postbox.wanadoo.co.uk/benwin98boot.exe
4. boot manager disk
http://www.postbox.wanadoo.co.uk/bootmanager.exe
the good thing about boot manager is that it can handel hidden partitions.
it is all ready made to use with menu.
5. you also need bootable floppy to copy contents to recovery partition
http://www.postbox.wanadoo.co.uk/benpartitiontype.exe

6. partition magic 6 or higher or the cd which I posted link earlier QTpated that will do same

job.

places where I got my info and down loads are :
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss...cid=MIGR-4UFUYK

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss...cid=MIGR-4UFUYK
and
http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4QDSS5.html
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important information
the lable of the recovery partitin must be IBM_SERVICE
as the boot manager prog looks for a partition of that name if not exist error will result.
the recovery partition MUST be FAT32 and HIDDEN and PRIMARY.
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use partition magic to make 2 partitions
1. NTFS where XP is or will be living say 70GB PRIMARY lable it XP

2. FAT32 recovery partition size 10Gb PRIMARY HIDDEN large enough to hold ghost image and

content of floppy (benpartitiontype)remenber this partitin must be hidden at all times as XP

tends to write to it other wise.
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once you have the two partitions boot with a windows 98 boot disk with gdisk on
at A: prompt type
GDISK /STATUS 1
and enter on key board
this gives you all partition details of disk 1
GDISK 1 /-hide /P:2
this un hides the partition 2
restart pc with win 98 boot disk in floppy drive for settings to take effect
fat32 IBM_SERVICE partition is now C:

take win98 boot disk out
put ben partitiontype floppy(abovwe) in floppy drive
COPY A:\*.* C:\
now take that floppy out and put in the floppy with Ghost.exe in
COPY A:\ghost.exe C:\
take that floppy out and put win98 boot disk in again
SYS C:

this puts system files on recovery partition.
GDISK 1 /hide /P:2
this gain hides the partition
take win 98 boot disk out and put bootmanager disk in
then CTRL +ALT +DEL to restart.
it boot into the floppy and gives 3 option on menu
choose option 1
this will add a line when you boot saying press F10 to recover
take the floppy out and test CTRL +ALT +DEL
it should boot to recovery partition ..........
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remember you still do not have the ghost image on that partition which we need .
if you install XP fresh it will wipe the F10 option.
and you need to do it again at the end
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to copy the XP image to that partition you need to again unhide the partition then Hide it again
some of you experts are probable board by now so I cut story short
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important ghost image MUST be named image.gho as this is on the command line.
boot in with windows 98 boot disk again
GDISK 1 /-hide /P:2
this un hides partition
reboot for setting to tahe effect

take win98 boot disk out put disk with ghost.exe in
ghost.exe

this will bring ghost (use arrow keys ) choose partition To Image option
for destination choose IBM_SERVICE
put win 98 in immidiately
boot into it and hide partition
GDISK 1 /hide /P:2
it is all ready test it to see if it copies the image
I have tested it and it all works ok and you will get a Buzz when it works .

reference:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=14127

once it is done then you can clone the complete disk this time for cloning identicale machines.
point about the master boot record was explained by a Ghost expert NightOwl
my preferred method of Ghost backups is *whole disk* backups.
Ghost does backup the first *absolute sector 0* which has the MBR code (Master Boot Record) and the Partition Table--but the rest of the Master Boot area which is *absolute sector 1 thru 62* is not backed up in Ghost's default mode--unless you use the Ghost command line switch *-ib* (image boot) which will then backup the whole Master Boot region of sectors 0 thru 62!

So, if there is special code in the Master Boot region sectors 1 thru 62, then you should use that *-ib* switch--and now a restore of that image will restore that region too--and should preserve that *F10* function!

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Restoring to many computers
If you are planning to create an image and restore it on multiple computers with different hardware, it is best to do a little preparation before cloning. At the source computer, copy the installation files from the Windows 95, 98, or NT installation CD to the hard drive. Then, install the operating system from those files. After the system has been set up, remove the hardware that you know may cause a problem from the Device Manager before creating the image. As long as you remove the devices, shut down the computer, then create the image without restarting into Windows, the destination computers will automatically detect the appropriate hardware and install the appropriate drivers.

If you installed Windows from the installation CD, rather than by copying the files to the drive before installation, you will need the Windows installation CD so Windows can access its library of drivers.
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost...05125&src=w

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Edited:
the above download site is Temp and the free ISP might demolish it any time , so if the links do not work you know what has happened.


Regards Ben mott

[jaclaz]

VERY good tutorial!

Bookmarking this, cheers.

jaclaz

[Ed_P]

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss...cid=MIGR-4UFUYK

Should be

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4UFUYK.html

[dog]

If you're distributing disk images, you'd be better using freedos than win98

[hilander999]

If you're distributing disk images, you'd be better using freedos than win98

This is interesting & everyone knows that you should not distribute MS files, BUT every MS BOOTDISK ever created can be easily downloaded from MANY internet sites & it has been this way for years so I would think that if MS really had a problem with it, they would have stopped it by now.

[dog]

Last time I looked, there was no MS boot disks on any of the UBCD projects.
I very much doubt MS are going to notice, but there is also the board to consider, especially now that we are essentially unmoderated

[Former_hooovahh_post]

Last time I looked, there was no MS boot disks on any of the UBCD projects.
I very much doubt MS are going to notice, but there is also the board to consider, especially now that we are essentially unmoderated

UUWAAAAA?...I guessing being just a regular member I wasn't aware of any mod or admin changes but sill Sheesh.

[dog]

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=18407
sad times

[Ben_Mott]

this is to complete the procedure
after it is all finnished you are ready to ghost the complete hard Disk this time
then that image can be used to clone identical machines .

The point about the master boot record was explained by a Ghost expert NightOwl
my preferred method of Ghost backups is *whole disk* backups.
Ghost does backup the first *absolute sector 0* which has the MBR code (Master Boot Record) and the Partition Table--but the rest of the Master Boot area which is *absolute sector 1 thru 62* is not backed up in Ghost's default mode--unless you use the Ghost command line switch *-ib* (image boot) which will then backup the whole Master Boot region of sectors 0 thru 62!

So, if there is special code in the Master Boot region sectors 1 thru 62, then you should use that *-ib* switch--and now a restore of that image will restore that region too--and should preserve that *F10* function!


Regards Ben

[jaclaz]

Similar topic updated with new info:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12447

jaclaz

[galeks]

Hello,
asan expert I think ican askyou a question about my problem.I decided to replace my HDD 60 gb with new one 120gb.I used acronis migrate easy.The same time was installed Acronis disc director suite.I did everything correct and works.I made aclone of the oldHDD,but.......i saw smtvery bad for me.In start up windows I cant find F10 recovery system...simply disappeared and cant do it anymore...I dont have any disc,recovery cd or windows xp home....thanks a lot

[Ed_P]

Rather than clone your old hd to the new hd you only moved an image of your active partition to the new hd. The recovery function is usually a hidden partition in front of the active one.

Did the new hd not come with a utility to clone the old one to it?

[jace5869]

Is there an updated link for the downloads? specifically the boot manager that adds the F10 option on boot?

[Ed_P]

This similar thread may help you. Especially when you got down to posting #8.

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12447

[Ben_Mott]

Hello,

here is another temp Link

http://tinyurl.com/bootmanagerdisk

down load to desk top and put a formatted floppy in floppy drive and double click
the icon on desk top.

CODE

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here is content of the other floppy benpartitiontype

Benpartitiontype:

Volume in drive A has no label.
Volume Serial Number is B896-FD88

Directory of A:\

11/05/1998 20:01 93,880 COMMAND.COM
17/09/1994 08:50 1,608 DEVICE.COM
27/04/2006 20:52 2,636 CDINST.BAT
06/05/1998 20:01 25,473 MSCDEX.EXE
24/03/2002 21:15 39 autoexec.bat
04/06/1998 09:22 41,302 OAKCDROM.SYS
30/01/1997 11:11 1,754 CHOICE.COM
18/01/2009 20:02 0 list.txt
8 File(s) 166,692 bytes
0 Dir(s) 979,968 bytes free

===================================================
CDinst.bat
@echo off
echo.
echo CDINST Version 3.00
echo.

rem cdletter is the CDROM letter
SET CDLETTER=%1

If not Exist DEVICE.COM goto ERROR
If not Exist MSCDEX.EXE goto ERROR

echo Checking for ATAPI Drive...
DEVICE.COM OAKCDROM.SYS /D:CD001
IF ERRORLEVEL 1 Goto NOCDROM
GOTO JUMP

rem -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:NOCDROM
ECHO ÿ
ECHO No CD-ROM drive has been detected.
ECHO ÿ
ECHO If your system includes a CD-ROM drive,
ECHO please check cable connection and try again.
ECHO ÿ
if not $%1==$CREATETAG GOTO END
if $%1==$CREATETAG ECHO NO CDROM PRESENT>C:\CABS\TAGS\CDROM0.TAG
GOTO END

:ERROR
CLS
ECHO Unable to detect CD-ROM drive. Missing DET-CD.EXE, DEVICE.COM,
ECHO DRIVERS.EXE or MSCDEX.EXE.
GOTO END

rem -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:JUMP
echo.

If $%CDLETTER%==$ Goto NOCDL
LH MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD001 /M:30 /L:%CDLETTER%
If ERRORLEVEL 1 MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD001 /M:30 /L:%CDLETTER%
If ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO NOCDROM

Goto END

:NOCDL
LH MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD001 /M:30
If ERRORLEVEL 1 MSCDEX.EXE /D:CD001 /M:30
If ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO NOCDROM
Goto END

:END
echo Benny Recovery Disk
echo .
echo WARNING! If you continue you will erase everything from your hard drive
echo .
echo .

echo.
echo The recovery CD will restore the system to its
echo original factory state. Any other programs or files
echo will be deleted, it is strongly recommended that
echo you backup any important data before continuing.
echo .
choice Would you like to continue with the recovery?
if errorlevel 2 goto endend

echo .
cls

echo Recovery Disk
echo .
echo WARNING! if you continue you will erase everything from your hard drive
echo .
echo You are about to start the recovery procedure
echo this will erase everything that is currently on
echo your hard drive.
echo .
echo Are you sure you want to restore system?
choice data will be lost!
if errorlevel 2 goto endend

cls

echo Recovery CD
echo .
echo WARNING! Starting Recovery Procedure
echo .
echo .
echo .

echo.
choice Continue With Recovery?

if errorlevel 2 goto end

ghost.exe -clone,mode=pload,src=c:image.gho:1,dst=1:1 -sure -rb

:endend


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AUTOexec.bat
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@echo off



cdinst.bat


exit
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Ben

This post has been edited by jaclaz: Jan 18 2009, 03:07 PM

[jaclaz]

This similar thread may help you. Especially when you got down to posting #8.

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=12447

I'll make the reference more explicit, from:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...=12447&st=7

Newish option, Terabyte MBR Utility can istall MBR's that allow for pressing a Fn key to select a "recovery" partition. :
http://www.msfn.org/board/Create-My-Own-Re....html&st=26

jaclaz

[Ben_Mott]

Hello Again,

I noticed the links were missing to floppiies in first post

here is a link to floppies it is a selfexpanding zip file(.exe)approx 12920KB(~12MG 10 floppies with 1.4MB approx)

http://rapidshare.com/files/204143978/postBox.exe

Ben