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Nov 17 2006, 03:24 PM
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Nov 17 2006, 04:20 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 4-March 06 Member No.: 17,889 |
Nice to see that it has become a free download. From the various articles on my prefered news sites i was tinking it would only be available to OEM/VLP-customers.
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Nov 20 2006, 12:31 PM
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Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Czech Republic, EU Member No.: 7,126 |
I can confirm. It is free to download (stil can NOT believe it is true!). Now i have to read how-to build my own WinPE. If anybody knows the process, could you post here a link?
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Nov 20 2006, 04:37 PM
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Silver Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 287 Joined: 24-October 03 Member No.: 2,173 |
Just follow the guide in the winpe chm. It goes through it step by step. Don't copy and paste the commnads though. Some of the characters were encoded funny and won't work correctly on the command line.
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Nov 20 2006, 06:59 PM
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![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 570 Joined: 7-January 04 From: Canada Member No.: 3,433 |
Yes, it's now the time to see what's WinPE 2.0 have to show up. Since BartPE as became a usual task for me, PE 2.0 is something new and interresting to see...
Maybe a new PE Builder for Vista family one day... |
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Nov 20 2006, 09:41 PM
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Silver Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 467 Joined: 20-April 04 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 5,446 |
WinPE and a new version of BPE have been brought up on many occasions over the past few months.
I have always stated that I'm pretty sure that Bart will do it. MS always misses something so I'm sure Bart will bring many great features to his version. While I think it's fun that people check out WinPE 2.0, I really see no need for it anytime soon. I think Bart will have his version out at the right time, possibly as much as 6 months from now?? That will be when us "techs" may need it because we will start getting messed up Vista systems in our shops. I have no intentions of leaving Bart or wasting time learning WinPE just because BartPE 4.0 isn't out on the day Vista ships. If I had the time to, I probably would play with it a little but will be content in waiting for Bart. -------------------- "I play Russian roulette everyday, a man's sport, with a bullet called life"
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Nov 21 2006, 04:52 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 4-March 06 Member No.: 17,889 |
Can anyone confirm that PE 2.0 doesn't allow you to run certain applications? For me this is freeCommander2006 for example. Don't know the original error message, since i use the german WAIK, but in rough translation it should be "this application can not be run". I guess resource limitations or blocking of filemanagers. comments?
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Nov 21 2006, 11:01 AM
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![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 1,190 Joined: 3-April 06 From: Azores Member No.: 18,537 |
It sure seems a resource limitation. Have you tried solving this issue with something like PEloader?
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Nov 21 2006, 12:17 PM
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Silver Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 287 Joined: 24-October 03 Member No.: 2,173 |
I don't know that I'd call learning how to use WinPE 2.0 a waste of time. It can be helpful when making plugins to know how the internals of WinPE works. Plus, since it will be included in every copy of Vista you can tell people how to use it over the phone (there's a built in recovery/repair function) even if you haven't downloaded something like UBCD4WIN. Not to mention some corporates don't like having anything used that doesn't come from a company with support (despite the fact that its free).
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Nov 21 2006, 02:15 PM
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Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Czech Republic, EU Member No.: 7,126 |
I am very keen on WIM filesystem. I try to apply this function to my Reatogo. I use "wimfltr" and "fltmgr" and imagex.exe. The .wim file is stored on C: drive.
The problem is it can NOT work. My (meybe un-function) plugins are: CODE ; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file [Version] Signature= "$Windows NT$" [PEBuilder] Name="WimFltr: WIM Filter (need FltMgr)" Enable=1 [SourceDisksFiles] files\WimFltr.sys=4,,1 files\wimgapi.dll=2,,1 files\imagex.exe=2,,1 [SetupReg.AddReg] 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Type", 0x2 ;0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Start", 0x3 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Start", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "ErrorControl", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Tag", 0x4 0x2, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "ImagePath", "system32\DRIVERS\wimfltr.sys" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DisplayName", "WimFltr" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Group", "FSFilter Compression" 0x7, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DependOnService", "FltMgr" 0x7, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DependOnGroup", "", "" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Description", "Windows Image Mini-Filter Driver" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DebugFlags", 0x1 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances", "DefaultInstance", "WimFltr Instance" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances\WimFltr Instance", "Altitude", "170500" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances\WimFltr Instance", "Flags", 0x0 0x3, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Security", "Security",\ 01,00,14,80,90,00,00,00,9C,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,02,00,1C,00,01,\ 00,00,00,02,80,14,00,FF,01,0F,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,02,00,\ 60,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,FD,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,\ 00,00,00,18,00,FF,01,0F,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,\ 00,00,14,00,8D,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,0B,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,FD,\ 01,02,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,23,02,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,\ 00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00 and CODE ; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file [Version] Signature= "$Windows NT$" [PEBuilder] Name="FltMgr: WIM Filter (need WimFltr)" Enable=1 [SourceDisksFiles] files\FltMgr.sys=4,,1 [SetupReg.AddReg] 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Type", 0x2 ;0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Start", 0x0 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Start", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "ErrorControl", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Tag", 0x4 0x2, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "ImagePath", "system32\DRIVERS\fltMgr.sys" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "DisplayName", "FltMgr" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Group", "FSFilter Infrastructure" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "Description", "Ovladač správce systémového filtru souborů" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr", "AttachWhenLoaded", 0x0 0x3, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Security", "Security",\ 01,00,14,80,90,00,00,00,9C,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,02,00,1C,00,01,\ 00,00,00,02,80,14,00,FF,01,0F,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,02,00,\ 60,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,FD,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,\ 00,00,00,18,00,FF,01,0F,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,20,02,00,00,\ 00,00,14,00,8D,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,0B,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,FD,\ 01,02,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,23,02,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,\ 00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "0", "Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "Count", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "NextInstance", 0x1 I can NOT mount an WIM file using ImageX.exe for /mount and /mountrw swith even if the file WIM is stored on C: drive. So i try to start services using sc.exe like "sc start fltmgr" and "sc start wimfltr" but they stay stopped. All files i mentioned are grabbed from WinPE 2.0 (Vista 6.0). Anybody can help me? Pavel |
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Nov 21 2006, 07:43 PM
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Titanium Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5,571 Joined: 29-August 03 From: NC, USA Member No.: 1,527 |
Imagex requires a patch ( KB914882 ) to allow mounting of the wim to work on XP. The patch is supplied on the WAIK iso.
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Nov 22 2006, 01:53 AM
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Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Czech Republic, EU Member No.: 7,126 |
@paraglider
Hm, do you think i need slipstream this patch to my source files? If yes, it seems simple solution. Pavel |
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Nov 22 2006, 07:58 AM
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Titanium Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Moderator Posts: 5,571 Joined: 29-August 03 From: NC, USA Member No.: 1,527 |
Try it and see if it fixes the problem.
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Nov 22 2006, 09:04 AM
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Gold Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 18-August 04 From: Czech Republic, EU Member No.: 7,126 |
QUOTE Try it and see if it fixes the problem. I am stil in my work now. I asked you to know if i understand you correctly. I will try and post my results. Pavel |
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Nov 22 2006, 12:59 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 4-March 06 Member No.: 17,889 |
It sure seems a resource limitation. Have you tried solving this issue with something like PEloader? well, all I got was a nice Messagebox, telling me that I don't need to use a patched winlogon.exe. After that it reboots instantly. |
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Nov 22 2006, 03:33 PM
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![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,675 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Germany, 32839 Steinheim Member No.: 1,716 |
Can anyone confirm that PE 2.0 doesn't allow you to run certain applications? i can not confirm that. first test today with winpe 2.0 with no problems. i can start Nu2Menu, A43 Filemanger, Everest 2006, Taskmanger, Registry workshop, several notepads, pserv, all at the same time. Taskmanger shows 34 processes. i will make more test's p.s. may be, we need a nice GUI for PE 2.0 Joshua -------------------- my plugin homepage:
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Nov 22 2006, 04:32 PM
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![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,675 Joined: 19-September 03 From: Germany, 32839 Steinheim Member No.: 1,716 |
freeCommander2005 also works fine.
Joshua -------------------- my plugin homepage:
http://www.drowaelder.de/winpe/PEIndex.htm |
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Nov 23 2006, 10:30 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 4-March 06 Member No.: 17,889 |
hm, shoot me. Couldnt start fc2006 from the command window, but from the "Run.." window started from nu2menu. Interesting. Or it is because FC2006 needs some of the additional packages, which i neglected to install on the first try.
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Nov 24 2006, 12:05 PM
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Silver Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 6-October 03 Member No.: 1,883 |
wimfltr doesn't seem to start even if KB914882 is slipstreamed.
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Nov 24 2006, 01:29 PM
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Silver Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 198 Joined: 6-October 03 Member No.: 1,883 |
I got it working i ran NET start WimFltr and successfully mounted winpe.wim. you will need the KB914882 hotfix slipstreamed.
FltMgr.inf CODE ; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file [Version] Signature= "$Windows NT$" [PEBuilder] Name="File System Filter Manager Driver" Enable=1 [SourceDisksFiles] fltmgr.inf=20 fltmgr.sys=4 fltlib.dll=2 [SetupReg.AddReg] 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","Type",0x2 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","Start",0x0 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","ErrorControl",0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","Tag",0x4 0x2,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","ImagePath","system32\DRIVERS\fltMgr.sys" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","DisplayName","FltMgr" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","Group","FSFilter Infrastructure" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","Description","File System Filter Manager Driver" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr","AttachWhenLoaded",0x0 0x1,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "0", "Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "Count", 0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Services\FltMgr\Enum", "NextInstance", 0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR","NextInstance",0x1 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","Service","FltMgr" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","Legacy",0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","ConfigFlags",0x0 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","Class","LegacyDriver" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","ClassGUID","{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000","DeviceDesc","FltMgr" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000\Control", "*NewlyCreated*", 0x0 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_FLTMGR\0000\Control", "ActiveService", "FltMgr" WimFltr.inf CODE ; PE Builder v3 plug-in INF file
[Version] Signature= "$Windows NT$" [PEBuilder] Name="WimFltr: WIM Filter (need FltMgr)" Enable=1 [SourceDisksFiles] files\wimfltr.inf=20,,1 files\wimfltr.sys=4,,1 files\wimgapi.dll=2,,1 files\imagex.exe=2,,1 files\intlcfg.exe=2,,1 [SetupReg.AddReg] 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Type", 0x2 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Start", 0x3 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "ErrorControl", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Tag", 0x4 0x2, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "ImagePath", "system32\DRIVERS\wimfltr.sys" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DisplayName", "WimFltr" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Group", "FSFilter Compression" 0x7, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DependOnService", "FltMgr" 0x7, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DependOnGroup", "", "" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "Description", "Windows Image Mini-Filter Driver" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr", "DebugFlags", 0x1 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances", "DefaultInstance", "WimFltr Instance" 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances\WimFltr Instance", "Altitude", "170500" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Instances\WimFltr Instance", "Flags", 0x0 0x1, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Enum", "0", "Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000" 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Enum", "Count", 0x1 0x4, "ControlSet001\Services\WimFltr\Enum", "NextInstance", 0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR","NextInstance",0x1 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","Service","WimFltr" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","Legacy",0x1 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","ConfigFlags",0x0 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","Class","LegacyDriver" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","ClassGUID","{8ECC055D-047F-11D1-A537-0000F8753ED1}" 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000","DeviceDesc","WimFltr" 0x4,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000\Control", "*NewlyCreated*", 0x0 0x1,"ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_WIMFLTR\0000\Control", "ActiveService", "WimFltr" |
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