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 Oct 25 2009, 03:40 PM
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Hello
My laptop has no cd drive or usb boot. Can I boot Bart pe from the hard drive anyway. I can put any file on the laptops hard drive on another pc. Thanks number7 |
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Oct 25 2009, 04:04 PM
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Thre is peinst included by default. This add BartPE to c: drive
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Oct 26 2009, 01:50 PM
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Does that mean the hard drive will boot straight into Bart pe. The drive now boots to dos. I did try peinst, it did load files to the drive but I couldnt get pe going.
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Oct 26 2009, 04:23 PM
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A XP bootable drive is expected: read a ntldr boot sector, file ntldr and boot.ini
Format the drive use NT, 2000 or XP. Copy file ntldr and boot.ini. |
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Oct 27 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (cdob @ Oct 26 2009, 09:23 PM)  A XP bootable drive is expected: read a ntldr boot sector, file ntldr and boot.ini Format the drive use NT, 2000 or XP. Copy file ntldr and boot.ini. Can you recommend anything to read boot sector and copy these files. Thanks |
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Oct 27 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (number7 @ Oct 27 2009, 04:03 PM) Can you recommend anything to read boot sector and copy these files. Thanks Answered my own question, Barts does it all. |
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Oct 27 2009, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (number7 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:03 PM) Can you recommend anything to read boot sector and copy these files. You're misinterpreting what was said. You don't need to read the boot sector you need to create a boot sector which is what the format function will do. Once formated copy the two files using COPY, XCOPY or Windows Explorer. -------------------- A useful posting: Adding drivers to BartPE; NIC, SATA, video A helpful thread: BartPE Troubleshooting FAQs  Use the forum's search tool to find postings about problems similar to yours.For searches involving three letter acronyms such as USB add an * to the end. For example: USB* The  button is your friend and is located just below the  one for Quote Reply.Ed |
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Oct 27 2009, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (Ed_P @ Oct 27 2009, 06:01 PM) You're misinterpreting what was said. You don't need to read the boot sector you need to create a boot sector which is what the format function will do. Once formated copy the two files using COPY, XCOPY or Windows Explorer. OK Format the drive copy the two files to the drive, ntldr and boot.ini, but which boot.ini then what as its not bootable in this state Your right I dont quit understand |
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Oct 27 2009, 02:01 PM
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The "DOS" bootsector invokes IO.SYS, which then loads MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM.
The "NT/2K/XP/2003" bootesector invokes NTLDR which then loads BOOT.INI and NTDETECT.COM. A "straight" PE on hard disk uses the PE Loader SETUPLDR.BIN renamed as NTLDR (SETUPLDR.BIN then loads *.sif and NTDETECT.COM). You can use BOOTPART (once booted in DOS) to replace the DOS bootsector to one invoking NTLDR: http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm Are you planning a single boot system or a multi-boot one? jaclaz -------------------- - Fighting against bloatware since 2004, and proud of it. -
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Oct 27 2009, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE (jaclaz @ Oct 27 2009, 07:01 PM) The "DOS" bootsector invokes IO.SYS, which then loads MSDOS.SYS and COMMAND.COM. The "NT/2K/XP/2003" bootesector invokes NTLDR which then loads BOOT.INI and NTDETECT.COM. A "straight" PE on hard disk uses the PE Loader SETUPLDR.BIN renamed as NTLDR (SETUPLDR.BIN then loads *.sif and NTDETECT.COM). You can use BOOTPART (once booted in DOS) to replace the DOS bootsector to one invoking NTLDR: http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm Are you planning a single boot system or a multi-boot one? jaclaz Multi-boot probably, first dos, then PE and finaly XP pro |
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Oct 28 2009, 05:56 AM
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Platinum Member Group: Moderator Posts: 4,309 Joined: 25-July 04 From: Italy Member No.: 6,779 |
Most probably your "base" choice would be then to use "normal" NTLDR+NTDETECT.COM+BOOT.INI, with an entry for a DOS bootsector (bootpart) and an entry for a copy of the NTLDR bootsector with a renamed name for the loader (bootpart+makebs).
MakeBS: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=2362 A more advanced (and actually advised) choice would be to use grub4dos: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=66 or syslinux: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showforum=92 jaclaz -------------------- - Fighting against bloatware since 2004, and proud of it. -
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Oct 28 2009, 11:40 AM
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Jaclaz m8
I am out of my depth. I dont need dos at all on the laptop or multi boot. Its got no optical or usb boot, only floppy drive. I have an xp image that I can copy to the hard drive externally to partition 2. I want to install this xp image to the drive. PS the image is for a cd not a hard drive. Is it possible number7 |
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Oct 28 2009, 02:38 PM
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Use winnt32.exe to prepare the hard disk at another machine.
Set makelocalource, syspart and tempdrive. Write to first partition. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library...342(WS.10).aspx |
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Oct 29 2009, 12:42 PM
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Can I use the winnt32 from my main xp disk on the other machine, then somehow install another cut down version of xp to the laptop from another disk. Main problem is second version of xp doesnt have winnt32 on it.
Thanks |
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Oct 29 2009, 02:35 PM
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Create a new cut down version of xp, keep winnt32.exe.
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Oct 29 2009, 02:53 PM
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Yes I did think of that and have nLite, problem is I get brain fade trying to get it working. Can you think of any easier way.
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