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Bart Lagerweij

Jul 23 2003, 01:21 AM

Hi all,

PE Builder is back!
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Release notes and known limitations:

Diskpart.exe does not work in (Window PE) when build from Server 2003. It returns error "the disk management services could not complete the operation" There is no solution yet...

The language and keyboard support is limited. The only keyboard layout currently supported is US keyboard layout.

PE Builder has been tested and known to work using the installation files from the following versions of Windows:
- Windows XP Home Edition (Service Pack 1) - English
- Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 1) - English
- Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition - English

Check it out, follow the section "building steps"...

Regards,
Bart.

MikeY

Jul 23 2003, 02:13 AM

great stuff, cya while i go and play

Nielson

Jul 23 2003, 03:08 AM

@Bart

Tried it with XP HE w/SP1 Dutch, but i get an errormessage when the iso-file is created :

QUOTE

(x86_Microsoft.Windows.GdiPlus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.0.0_x-ww_8d353f13.cat)
_6.0.0.0_nl-NL_61f514b9.Manifest and c:\pebldr/i386/winsxs/Manifests/x86_Microsoft.Tools.VisualCPlusPlus.Runtime-Libraries.Resources_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_nl-NL_61f514b9.cat have the same Joliet name
/cygdrive/c/PE/mkisofs: Joliet tree sort failed.
Error: ISO builder (mkisofs) returned error code 65535
Build process done...
There where 1 errors and 0 warnings

What files are required from the Windows installation, and is it possible to run PEbuilder from XP HE Dutch while using an XP Pro English CD, as i don't have a system with an English XP version installed ?

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 23 2003, 03:18 AM

@Nielson

Strange! Can you run pebuilder.exe with the "-v" parameter, build again and send me the logfile...

Bart.

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 23 2003, 04:54 AM

@Nielson

I also tried winxp/sp1 dutch.

Problem is the folder:
x86_Microsoft.Tools.VisualCPlusPlus.Runtime-Libraries.Resources_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_nl-NL_61f514b9

104 chars long.. mkisofs doesn't like it that long. I'll try a newer mkisofs.exe

Bart.

Nielson

Jul 23 2003, 04:56 AM

@Bart

Stupid me

I used the for the 'Path to the Windows Installation files' also the C:\Windows directory, because i couldn't find my cd and the Windows directory contains an i386 directory with all the installation files, but this probably causes the problem.

/edit

Found my CD's, the error does not occur when using the cd's, i get another one however :

QUOTE

Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_x-ww_1382d70a\comctl32.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_x-ww_1382d70a\comctl32.dll"
Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.10.0_x-ww_f7fb5805\comctl32.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.10.0_x-ww_f7fb5805\comctl32.dll"
Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.0.0_x-ww_2726e76a\msvcrt.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.0.0_x-ww_2726e76a\msvcrt.dll"
Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.0.0_x-ww_2726e76a\msvcirt.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.0.0_x-ww_2726e76a\msvcirt.dll"
Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.10.0_x-ww_d8862ba3\msvcrt.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.10.0_x-ww_d8862ba3\msvcrt.dll"
Copying file "C:\WINDOWS\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.10.0_x-ww_d8862ba3\msvcirt.dll" to "c:\pebldr\i386\winsxs\x86_Microsoft.Windows.CPlusPlusRuntime_6595b64144ccf1df_7.0.10.0_x-ww_d8862ba3\msvcirt.dll"
Copying file "D:\WIN51" to "c:\pebldr\WIN51"
Copying file "D:\WIN51IP" to "c:\pebldr\WIN51IP"
Copying file "D:\WIN51IP.SP1" to "c:\pebldr\WIN51IP.SP1"
Copying file "D:\i386\bootfix.bin" to "c:\pebldr\i386\bootfix.bin"
Copying file "C:\PE\winbom.ini" to "c:\pebldr\winbom.ini"
Getting CD-Rom bootstrap loader
WritePrivateProfileString (setupdata,osloadoptions,"/fastdetect /minint",c:\pebldr\i386\txtsetup.sif) returned 5: Toegang geweigerd.
infChanges() failed
File "D:\i386\ntdll.dll" version 5.1.2600.1106
Build process done...
There where 1 errors and 0 warnings

/edit2

Solved with version v202a

reanimatolog

Jul 23 2003, 05:24 AM

@Bart

QUOTE

Problem is the folder:
x86_Microsoft.Tools.VisualCPlusPlus.Runtime-Libraries.Resources_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_nl-NL_61f514b9
104 chars long.. mkisofs doesn't like it that long. I'll try a newer mkisofs.exe

Problem is the two files:

WinSxS\Manifests\x86_Microsoft.Tools.VisualCPlusPlus.Runtime-libraries.Resources_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_ru-RU_b372f0f9.cat

WinSxS\Manifests\x86_Microsoft.Tools.VisualCPlusPlus.Runtime-Libraries.Resources_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.0.0_ru-RU_b372f0f9.Manifest

first 103 symbols of their names are identical.

BTW, second file have name longer whan 110 (maximum for Joliet) symbols and can't be stored in Joliet file system.

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 23 2003, 09:43 AM

Updated PE Builder v2.0.2b-BETA.

- When building using some languages, like Dutch you get this error:
/cygdrive/c/pebuilderv202/mkisofs: Joliet tree sort failed.
Returned exitcode 65535
Error: ISO builder (mkisofs) returned error code 65535
These non-english versions of windows have filenames that go over the maximum allowed length for Joliet filenames (103 chars).
Updated mkisofs.exe to version 2.01a17 for ISO-9660:1999 (version 2) filesystem support.
Only trouble is that mkisofs iso level 4 creates filenames in lowercase.
Had to patch mkisofs.c so that it would produce filenames in uppercase, so else the NTLDR (setupldr.bin) would fail.
Updated pebuilder
This means that the generated ISO image does not have Joliet extensions anymore!
Also updated cygwin1.dll.
- Added an option to "bypass" the ntoskrnl.exe version check.

Bart.

dannydude

Jul 23 2003, 11:31 AM

when compiling the ISO, I get the version error (probably cause I didn't use a slipstreamed xp sp1 cd to install my current OS, I installed SP1 afterwards), and continue, and it creates the iso successfully, but when booting the iso, it asks me to insert the XP cd in drive A. What am I doing wrong? I tried all versions (new release, a and b now) of PEbuilder.

evilvoice

Jul 23 2003, 02:04 PM

Hey Bart, can you help me out, im currently trying to add the capability of a ramdisk to pebldr...my question is how do I set pebldr to copy the files to their correct location, like these files in pebuilder.inf

biosinfo.inf=1,,,,,,,,0,0,,1,2
default=1,,,,,,,,0,0,,1,3
halaacpi.dll=1,,,,,,,,0,0,,1,2
halacpi.dll=1,,,,,,,,0,0,,1,2
halapic.dll=1,,,,,,,,0,0,,1,2
netmscli.inf=1,,,,,,,,0,0,netmscli.inf,1,20

(small snippet)
the inf file goes to inf folder, and the sys file goes to driver folder...so Im hoping to just set it in there...thanx in advance

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 24 2003, 03:02 AM

Hi all, bad news.
Microsoft has asked us to remove PE Builder v2...
No download until I know more... Can take a few days...

Bart.

koszopal

Jul 24 2003, 05:14 AM

Not Agaaaain

UltraBeam16

Jul 24 2003, 05:43 AM

DAMN THEM!!

I just don't get it!!! Whats wrong M$??

There's no copyrighted material and even still they stop PE Builder! Wat A$$ HOLES

! (excuse my language... but there's no other way to express my anger).

Damn money hoggers... like they dont have enough already

I'm switching to Linux...

CWP

Jul 24 2003, 06:39 AM

So here's the justice: /. article.

CWP

SuperTech

Jul 24 2003, 08:00 AM

QUOTE (Bart Lagerweij @ Jul 24 2003, 08:02 AM)

Hi all, bad news.
Microsoft has asked us to remove PE Builder v2...
No download until I know more... Can take a few days...

Bart.

It's quite amazing they don't respond to you for a whole month, yet they know when it's released within 24 hours and ask you to remove it.

risolutore

Jul 24 2003, 08:58 AM

PE builder v. 2a works on italian ver.
I am quite surprised of the new problems...

Jef

Jul 24 2003, 09:50 AM

And it's gone again...

Björn Johansson

Jul 24 2003, 10:11 AM

Bart, can you please provide some info about Microsoft stopping the PE again? Is stopped for good or are you negotiating/discussing any terms etc?

Lucky me that downloaded in time....

zeronx

Jul 24 2003, 11:32 AM

We can only hope for a mirror to pop up somewhere soon.

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 25 2003, 01:18 AM

@Björn Johansson
I hope to fix it. At this moment I'm not sure what the problem is. I'm waiting for more details...

@SuperTech
Yea, I think if I didn't arranged a "deadline" I would still be waiting...

Bart.

bazz

Jul 25 2003, 04:18 AM

Sounds to me like they asked you to remove it first then try and find a reason afterwards. I think you should insist that they explain the problem to you NOW as they're interfering with your work. Argue that they themselves must know what's wrong with it or they wouldn't have had any grounds to stop it. They can't ban someone elses work just because they don't like. Tell them to give you a big pile of cash and they won't see it again

ptx

Jul 25 2003, 07:20 AM

Hello again! i am new!
where i can download it?
or any here can send to ptx_1962@yahoo.com?
thanks!
good look!

ByteCoder

Jul 25 2003, 01:36 PM

@ptx

Start with the first page of this post. (http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/)

aNewGuy

Jul 25 2003, 05:10 PM

@bart
tell them its for educational purposes.

Dario Delpiano

Jul 26 2003, 03:07 AM

QUOTE (risolutore @ Jul 24 2003, 01:58 PM)

PE builder v. 2a works on italian ver.
I am quite surprised of the new problems...

How have you done that? I've tried all tricks I could think of, only to get "joliet sorting" error message.
Best result I had, when I've tried to build on a XPpro-sp1 (italian) machine, copying XP installation CD to HDD. All went well until last...

By the way: do you by chance have a copy of 202b release (or know somebody who has)? Would you make il available to me?

Thanks!

indooroopilly

Jul 26 2003, 04:08 AM

Time to tell M$ where to go......what's their beef? Crikey Bart , this is absolutely stupid on their part.
Let us know what we can do to help restore a bit of sanity.Regards from all your Aussie mates

fogerty4evr

Jul 26 2003, 01:22 PM

I have tried to make a bootable cd with PE Builder v2( not 100% sure I have version2)
Everything works fine...I think...but I cannot open any Nu2Menu. I can´t even see it....
I only have a desktop with a command prompt open. Exactly like this: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/image3.gif

What am I doing wrong?

Jörgen

Limer

Jul 26 2003, 05:18 PM

Could it be that you're using version one zero six (1.0.6)?

fogerty4evr

Jul 26 2003, 06:24 PM

Do you have the latest version?
Can you share?

Doctor xp

Jul 27 2003, 04:27 PM

@Bart
I think this time they doesn't have the right to do so, you don't distribute any copyrighted software, and the way you designed the PE Builder is not considered as reverse engineering.

So this time you should ignore their warning until they can convince you that is is an illegal piece of software.

fogerty4evr

Jul 28 2003, 03:50 AM

I agree!

What arguments do M$ have?

bazz

Jul 28 2003, 08:16 AM

DEMAND an answer from them NOW. While you're program is off-line, and while they're not hearing from you, they have no reason to hurry an explanation. It's in their interests to drag it out as long as possible. I would be contacting them everyday and insisting that they explain the legal case against this software.

Limer

Jul 28 2003, 09:45 AM

I think so too but in my opinion Bart shoud set a new deadlin.... M$ had one month time to check if Barts PE Builder is ok. I think this is enough time so he schoud set a deadline of two more days or so...

ekk

Jul 28 2003, 11:09 AM

I agree with Doctor XP, fogerty4erv, bazz and limer...

...tell your MS contact that 30 days was sufficient time to find any problems with your pe builder v2. Demand a concise explanation as to any issue(s) with the builder or in 48 or 72 hours pe builder v2 will be back online.

It's easy for us to tell you what to do; MS is in contact with you.

TheWasp

Jul 29 2003, 08:36 PM

can i recommend you to Link Removed by TheWasp which i can point out is in no way associated with this forum just a place where people can speak their minds.

TheWasp

sorry i didnt word myself correctly what i mean was the other forum is a place where other topics which are not suitable here can be discussed, people are free to speak their minds on all forums thats the point of them, the other forum is simply deals with more risky topics so this forum does not get shut down.

EDIT i have removed all links to the forum from my posts, everyone who knows about the site please continue to visit however i feel it is causing problems keeping links to the forum regarding its content on this forum which likes to stay legal as it should

ekk

Jul 29 2003, 11:32 PM

I was only expressing my frustration with MS which I now think was too harsh towards Bart. I sincerely apologize. I just think that Bart's PE Builder is an extremely well designed product and I would like to see it continue to develop.

@TheWasp
Why would you recommend that I "speak" my mind in another forum "no way associated" with this topic? This is my first experience with forums and this one has provided me with a wealth of information.

juanpa

Jul 30 2003, 07:06 AM

I have PeBuilder and I'm happy

I make a image file, but when it's loader the image file in a computer sent a error messager

" Can't load file SETUPREG.HIV error code 32768 ..."

Can you help me

bazz

Jul 30 2003, 07:36 AM

This is a great forum, but I wasn't aware that you shouldn't speak you're mind on it. Shame.

ekk

Jul 30 2003, 08:16 AM

@TheWasp

I understand your concern and I too would not want to risk the loss of this forum due to the current situation.

Bart Lagerweij

Jul 30 2003, 01:50 PM

Hi,

I'm on holiday at the moment. But I didn't hear anything from Microsoft yet.

Bart.

Doctor xp

Jul 31 2003, 05:12 PM

@ekk, bazz

You can sruely speak your mind as much as you want, just speak legally.

What TheWasp meant is that if you need a forum that you can publicly publish illegal links and files, then our forum is not suitable for you, and you go to any other forum.

I agree with him, our forum is commited to providing everyone a discussion place to legally talk about and discuss the latest technologies in Bootable and Rescue CDs, and one of its rules is that no warez/illegal links are accepted inside any topic.

Alien

Aug 5 2003, 07:05 AM

QUOTE (Bart Lagerweij @ Jul 30 2003, 06:50 PM)

I'm on holiday at the moment. But I didn't hear anything from Microsoft yet.

Bart.

Enjoy your holiday

And good luck with the headaches M$ gives you.
Keep up your great work on your tools !

p.s. how's the Toshiba Laptop working ? Still okay ?

Or is it collecting dust after the Dell gift

Bart Lagerweij

Aug 10 2003, 03:20 AM

QUOTE (Alien @ Aug 5 2003, 01:05 PM)

p.s. how's the Toshiba Laptop working ? Still okay ?

Or is it collecting dust after the Dell gift

The toshiba had keyboard problems.
But now I have the Dell notebook and that is doing very well...

Bart.

Bart Lagerweij

Aug 10 2003, 03:38 AM

Hi all,

I still have no details on what is wrong with PE Builder v2

I've complaint to m$ that they are taking like "forever".
Not sure if that helps...
Not sure what else to do...

Bart.

Jef

Aug 10 2003, 11:45 AM

A possible thing to do would be putting it up again and a big notice that you won't take it down without reason. Of course, that has some "little" disadvantages.

ZuluDC

Aug 10 2003, 07:06 PM

@ Bart
I can understand that you getting unsure about what to do agains the wordless saying:"no" from MS. Infact MS is so strong and full of money that perhaps it is better not to go in heavy confrontation with them. Clear it is absolut not nice for you to have this situation. In the PeBuilders is full of your time and heart in; there are parts of your life...so it hurts deep.

When i look around and try to study about who are the people that wanna play around with such a tool so it's sure that the PeBuilders aren't tools for the most people, for the 'real masses'; will say more for PC-Freaks, -Specialist and -Administrators.I think the people that have really interesting in such a tool are browsing the www with open eyes and a 'deeper' look. They find what they looking for and so the difference between when the PeBuilder is open for download or not is not extrem.

I hope for you and us that sometime your created tools will be open for all.

And so i have finally one thing to say more: You are the men that have bring me in the end to this place. When you and your first PeBuilder hasen't exist, so i think i never had find to the place here and not in a near future my way to WinPE.

For that, your products of hardest work and your always gentle beeing i give you my hand: THANKS Bart!

bazz

Aug 10 2003, 07:27 PM

@Doctor xp
Thanks, yes that makes sense.

@bart
It seems to me that they are so big and arrogant that they asked you to remove it but know they have no basis for doing so.

It's totally up to you what you do but if it were me, I'd write to them (propper letter, recorded delivery not email) demanding that they explain to you in writing, by return, exactly why they have asked you to remove your software. I would say that if no expanation is forthcoming by [a certain date, give them enough time like 30 days] you will make the software available for download again. I would add that if they ask again for the software to be removed, you will only do so once an explanation for their reasoning is given. I would also add that if no explanation is given, you will take legal advise about their harrasement.

Of course, they know they can afford any legal case and that you probably can't. Jutice is all about who's richest (alegedly).

@Doctor xp
Is it possible to add a spell checker to the board

bazz

Aug 10 2003, 07:41 PM

@bart again
Is there no other way of making a bootable rescue cd based on something else, like this linux I keep hearing so much about? There must be quite a few applications for that now that would be usefull for rescue work, and there's no copyright problems (as far as I understand it). Maybe you could stuff the big M altogether. Just a thought.

Bart Lagerweij

Aug 11 2003, 01:38 AM

QUOTE (bazz @ Aug 11 2003, 01:41 AM)

Linux NTFS writing support is experimental...
And Windows PE has FULL NTFS support!

Bart.

CWP

Aug 11 2003, 07:24 AM

QUOTE (bazz @ Aug 10 2003, 08:41 PM)

There is actually some copyright issues currently going on. SCO claims that certain Linux kernel (v2.4 and v2.5) have violated their intellectual property and are now requesting that people get a $699 license for a single CPU.

Now I don't know if there is some truth in this, but you can read a lot of it from Slashdot, or a search on Google's news.

QUOTE (Bart Lagerweij @ Aug 11 2003, 02:38 AM)

Linux NTFS writing support is experimental...

Last time I tried (with Knoppix), there is no writing support for NTFS 2k/XP.

CWP

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