WHAT is working?

From what I can understand from the original description is at msfn.org , the procedure should be:
1) Access the HD with a PE of some kind, a Love Linux CD or however find a way to:
1a) delete/rename narrator.exe
1b) disable <somehow> (empty SFCFILES.DLL) the WFP
1c) make a copy of CMD.EXE
1d) rename this copy to narrator.exe and move it to the directory where the original narrator.exe was
2) reboot normally
2a) at the logon screen press "Windows" + "U"
2b) the utility manager utilman.exe should be brought up, with two items:
osk.exe (On Screen Keyboard)
narrator.exe (the renamed CMD.EXE)
2c) try choosing the latter

What happens?

as d4vr0s reported, nothing?

Is it possible that the procedure described by luke.mccormick misses a vital step (maybe the fact that the "tech guys" have a modified CMD.EXE :dubbio:)?

@Jotnar
Do read this:
http://www.msfn.org/board/Access-COMMAND-S...9.html&st=7
AND links therein.
The "screensaver" trick does not work (properly) anymore, the opened Command Prompt has NOT the "right" priviledges anymore.

jaclaz

Abbreviated version, obviously. I renamed narrator.exe, then copied cmd.exe, then renamed the copy to narrator.exe ...
Told SFC to ignore the change.

@Jaclaz
Prior to login narrator was running, but no cmd window visible.
This was on xppro SP2, no fast user switching, hp protecttools gina.

I'm referring to WindowsGate of course.

Hi

I just tried this on Vista, it works great!

Thanks

Something worth a look, actually TWO or more :
http://www.edugeek.net/forums/showpost.php...mp;postcount=91
http://edugeek.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2022

jaclaz

New release 1.1
See first post

Again, nice.

Here is a report that the cmd.exe trick works on Server2008 !

http://labcontrol.blogspot.com/2008/02/thi...nformation.html


jaclaz

Nice, you took my suggestion!

v1.1 seems to work great, all the functions seem to work properly (I've tested both Utilman and msv1_0.dll methods on XP SP2).

To test, I purposefully set my password to something random, and I could not get in after logging off/rebooting

I booted to my CD, and used WindowsGate. I used the Utilman method to gain access to "control userpasswords2". That worked, and I could add an admin account and login flawlessly; I could even change the admin password directly.

Then, I tested the msv1_0.dll method, and it still works as it did before. I then changed my user's password back while I was logged in with the msv1_0.dll method.

The bug I've found was with the "Other OS" feature; it works, but it's not as user friendly as it could have been:

The bug is obvious, "Choose system folder" is displayed twice. I think it would also be more user-friendly to have the user pick the Windows directory instead of System, just a suggestion.

Great work though!

Also, to perfect your program even more, you should add a check to make sure duplicate installations don't get added!

For example: if the program already detected windows at C:\WINDOWS, and I try to add that again with "Other OS", it shouldn't allow me to add it! Or, if I've already added one with Other OS, and I try adding it again, it should fail and display an error message.

Just suggestions for making your program perfect .

As I've said, if you've fixed the bugs I've stated before this post, and added these improvements, it would make this program just about perfect

Thank you for this program it is wonderful for when I am working on someone's computer and they forgot to thell me their password or have forgotten it themselves.

I admit I haven't read all the comments but there is one thing to mention: Password verification switching depends on the bit level of the OS, if you use this program on 64bit systems it will not disable verification. the Winkey+U opiton still works and you can run SOME programs but not all, I use that to allow myself into the computer on 64bit systems.

Working great on Windows 7 to. Just test it today on a Windows Professional 32-bit

I realize this is a long time now, but I also believe it would be quite worthwhile if anyone has Windowsgate it would be valuable to post/share it as the original has vanished completely.

Reboot forum goes on and on (across a collection of threads, even...) about extracting it from a .SCRIPT using a convoluted/awful tool with 'terrible syntax' but at no point actually shares the tool itself - instead calling anyone wanting it a lazy leecher.

I am neither lazy nor a leecher but I do very much dislike getting headaches for no good reason; and why fight with a flawed tool to extract from a 370k .script if it can be avoided altogether ?

Oh I wouldn't say completely. The links in this post seem to work. Took me less than 2 minutes to find.

Well, there is the actual .script (containing Windowsgate program).
A tool to extract it.
A small batch to help using the tool, fo rthose that find it's syntax too complex.

I am sorry if you are not satisfied with what is available , it's good to see how people appreciates the efforts to easen other people's life (which in my view is not giving them fish, but rather teach them to fish).

And I am sorry that you find the little batch's syntax, that was written to avoid the "awful" syntax of the original tool, also "awful".

The tool is in FIRST post in this thread (AND clearly linked to in the thread http://reboot.pro/4070/ ):
http://reboot.pro/10783/
the batch is here:
http://reboot.pro/10783/page__st__14

I will gladly accept suggestions for a "better syntax", in my simplicity running:

seems fairly simple, but evidently my small efforts to limit the amount of whining were not at all successful.


jaclaz

I know quite well how to fish, thank you.
Some folks think that 'fishing' actually means to catch the same fish 10 different ways before you can keep it; I call that a headache.
So, as posted elsewhere:
Did the time, read all the excessive/convoluted nonsense - plumbed the ridiculously intransigent extraction method after also checking other possible sources to find it is simply GONE; and it may be had MINUS the excessive effort, here:
1.1.rar

Woof.

Yep , but they still contain a winbuilder .script, from which you can extract the actual Windowsgate.
And to do so, you need to use either Winbuilder or the "dedicated tool" (and optionally the helper .cmd).
A nice loop, that smallhagrid resolved not unlike what Alexander the Great did with the Gordian knot :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordian_Knot
by extracting the file and re-uploading it.
(and adding some whining in the process )


Wonko