Hi !

Just a short quick question !
I do everything PE stuff with BartPE, I really like it a lot.
Now I saw the Winbuilder Projekt and I really don't know where is the difference between this
2 PE builder. Anyway .. I saw a Projekt for the Winbuilder a Avast Project which is very cool and I
want it for my BartPE CD. Does anyone know how I can get this Avast project to my BartPE ???
I googled around for a Avast BartPE plugin but didn't get one

Does anyone have a hint for me?!
Thank you a lot !

Nice greetings
Alex

AFAIK there are no converters from .script to inf - only the other way round.
Looks like folks don't go back to pebuilder once they fiddled with winbuilder.

Thank you for the hint !

I have to look to convert my plugins to Winbuilder, but hopefully I can get it to run on maschines with 64MB of RAM, like it is now running with my Bart PE !

Take care
Alex

Sounds like a trap.

Hey Ed,

do you maybe know a workaround for my problem ? ?

greets
Alex

1. Use a different AV.
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2. Use WinBuilder as suggested. I believe it auto converts PEBuilder plugins to it's scripting format. How you maintain them going forward I don't know.
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3. Start with this plugin and go from there: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=18662

The main difference is that winbuilder is a script engine that allows people to completely define whatever boot disks they want to create regardless of the OS.

You're bound to find a lot of boot disk projects out there that are powered by this engine, some of them we're announced and discussed here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=50 while others found their way on the official pages being classified as stable or beta/discontinued projects: http://winbuilder.net/download.php





Actually it was nowhere possible for a long time because there was no standard way to write a script and each project author defined their own rules regarding how they should be written in the first place.

Only recently (about a year ago) we've all began to agree on a standard way to write these scripts that are now called "app scripts".

This brought several improvements and we have been ever since that date reusing them across different projects like liveXP or VistaPE or even allow them to be recycled and used again in the future by any other wb projects since they avoid the use of static settings: http://winbuilder.net/help/scripts/script_application.html

Also helped us to build a much bigger library of available app scripts to any given project following this standard convention: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=65



On current beta testings and over the next stable version (076) it is possible to run PEBuilder plugins inside the most popular wb projects without changing anything on the plugin: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showtopic=5100

Plugins are automatically converted to this app script language when the project is running.

We've done our testings using the plugins from UBCD4win running inside a LiveXP project without changing anything on the plugins folder.


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There might be also be a different solution.

Look on the BartPE Core wb project that was created by Thuun, the same author of the Avast 4.7 plugin that was mentioned above. This project also includes Avast by default: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=20057

BartPECore allows you to use PE builder as the engine that builds the boot disk from within winbuilder that is later responsible for the customization of the boot disk and the part of adding app scripts such as Avast. You can also include your plugins inside this project.

In case of doubt you should contact Thuun to know if something else can be changed to meet your needs.

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Last but not least, there are also other projects suited for systems with lower memory available.

If you have some time, I also recommend giving a try to the excellent NativeEx project by Peter Schlang (PSC). Should build you a stunning ISO sized in 50Mb sized ISO image capable of running in situations of very limited RAM: http://winbuilder.net/download.php?view.27

Many options available, take your pick and wish you good luck building a boot disk you like.

Hi Nuno !

Thank you for your long and very detailed answer ! Now I understand things better. It sounds good to have a "goal" to standardise these app scrips ! For me
in the first look it was frightended because I thought I can only use the given apps.... I have for me a very special Boot CD
customized with a customized desktop picture etc ... but now when I saw the winbuilder project I wasn't able to change the desktop
picture (this isn't really important I know, but I thought its not a BIG challenge to do so but in the Winbuilder at this time I haven't
got a clue where to do so ... or even to get other app scripts without them to download from the winbuilder server. ...
So a year ago I typed in google ... plugin for BartPE and I got several pages -
now - I only have the apps from the winbuild server ... Don't get me wrong, I like new things !!!
Maybe I am the type of "never touch a running system"

So I am searching for e.g. a citrix client for the PE but I wasn't able to find one for the winbuilder ...
I think I have to search more and read more

But thank you again for your answer !
Take care
Alex

Winbuilder itself is an engine and shouldn't be confused with the different boot disk projects available

If you like bartPE then you probably might be interested in using LiveXP since both use the same windows XP source.

This is the way how you customize the wallpaper.

Open the Basic --> Tweaks folder --> Select the script called "Wallpaper"



This script is also directly available online: http://livexp.boot-land.net/LiveXP/Basic/T...allpaper.Script

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It has a peculiar way of working. If you don't specify a wallpaper to use, by default it will copy the current wallpaper that you are using on your desktop.

Whenever in doubt you only need to browse the scripts available on the project and see which features and options can be customized or ask around these forums so that others can help.




Well.. The easiest and safest way of using app scripts is getting them directly from the project server online when you visit the download center inside winbuilder. And this happens because popular projects get their respective scripts updated very often as other developers propose bugfixes or more app scripts to include inside the mainstream projects.

The person responsible for managing the project only makes available app scripts that he has carefully tested successfully under the respective project. This method also ensures that all scripts are organized on the right locations and that they pass through a rigorous file integrity check to ensure your downloaded file is 100% reliable.

We have developed the download center to ease getting all the possible available scripts, a bit like synaptic works in ubuntu.

You can however choose to do things manually as it is done on bartPE, look on the app scripts section to find the work that is posted by other .script developers: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=65 but beware that some newly posted scripts are surely still on beta testing and are only recommended for people with a bit more of experience handling them.

Each server also allows to browse and download script directly from where they are place, look here: http://livexp.boot-land.net/LiveXP/



It's a quite different experience for those who use these projects. Since a lot of people work together and share their scripts, other people benefit directly from these developments and this ensures that boot disks keep getting far better than a single person alone could ever achieve.

This is our philosophy, script everything to automate end results and focus more time improving and developing new things that really matter and provide even better results for the future.

If you're happy with what you have that's fine but please bear in mind that bartPE remains pretty much on the same state since some years ago and if you ever try a winbuilder project least once you should quickly notice the difference between what has been developed over the last years in terms of improved methods to build boot disks.





Why not asking for help and do your own script?

Start here: http://www.boot-land.net/forums/?showforum=32

See the code from other app scripts, learn which registry keys or services need to replicated on the target windows and eventually you should get you citrix client working good after you start doing your experiments.

A great thread but a little out of place in Plugins. I have moved it to the WinBuilder forum. Hope you agree.