Hi everyone.

This topic is mostly intended to keep everyone informed on what is being done while boot-land.net is offline.

You're welcome to post questions or feedback regarding what will be implemented over the next few days, some major changes are planned to take place which should result in faster and cleaner work space for our community.

Some new features will be also be integrated and will be made available as time advances.

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For the moment the order of operations is as follow:

[done] - Place the forum in offline mode to prevent changes
[done] - Copy boot-land.net to new location
[done] - propagate DNS with new server location information
[delayed]- clean up the clutter from work folders
[not possible] - attempt to use a fresh version of the forum software
[nearly completed] - install addons (left column, users viewed topic today, thanks mod, visual customization, etc)
[not needed] - install external scripts (portal, newsletter, download system, external registration page)
- install SVN service
- clean up database from inactive members (winter operation)
[on progress]- add back boot-land.net subdomains and email respective owners (password details sent to private email box)
[on progress..] - final checking and clean up
- Presentation to the public.

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All is going well at the moment, a lot of care is being taken with backups to ensure nothing gets lost in the process.

The proposed order of operations might change as needed, if something was left out of the list please mention it so that it won't be forgotten!

Thank you for reading!

As always, take my advice (even if apparently exposed in an aggressive way ) as an attempt to do things the better possible way, and anyway just my two cents:

What you plan to do is BASICALLY prone to errors, too many things and all together.

This is a safer approach:

1. [done] - Place the forum in offline mode to prevent changes
2. [on progress..] - Copy boot-land.net to new location
3. - propagate DNS with new server location information
4. - add back boot-land.net subdomains and email respective owners (password details sent to private email box)
5. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS EXACTLY AS BEFORE!
6. - Presentation to the public.
7. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works

IF everything works as expected do, ONE AT THE TIME, each of the following:

1. - clean up the clutter from work folders
2. - attempt to use a fresh version of the forum software
3. - install addons (left column, users viewed topic today, thanks mod, visual customization, etc)
4. - install external scripts (portal, newsletter, download system, external registration page)
5. - install SVN service
6. - clean up database from inactive members (winter operation)
7. - final checking and clean up

jaclaz

Shouldn't that be:

1. [done] - Place the forum in offline mode to prevent changes
2. [on progress..] - Copy boot-land.net to new location
3. - propagate DNS with new server location information
4. - add back boot-land.net subdomains and email respective owners (password details sent to private email box)
5. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS EXACTLY AS BEFORE!
6. - Presentation to the public.
7. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works

IF everything works as expected do, ONE AT THE TIME, each of the following:

1. - clean up the clutter from work folders
2. - Place the forum in offline mode (again) to prevent changes
3. - attempt to use a fresh version of the forum software
4. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS!
5. - Presentation to the public.
6. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works
7. - Place the forum in offline mode (again) to prevent changes
8. - install addons (left column, users viewed topic today, thanks mod, visual customization, etc)
9. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS!
10. - Presentation to the public.
11. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works
12. - Place the forum in offline mode (again) to prevent changes
13. - install external scripts (portal, newsletter, download system, external registration page)
14. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS!
15. - Presentation to the public.
16. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works
17. - Place the forum in offline mode (again) to prevent changes
18. - install SVN service
19. - CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS!
20. - Presentation to the public.
21. - WAIT some time to make sure everything works
22. - clean up database from inactive members (winter operation)
23. - final checking and clean up

Ok, I've understood the idea and will check everything at least 5 times before going to the next step..

But I'm already getting a bit stuck on the part of installing a brand new version of forum that keeps track of the available attachments, I'll google the needed answers and "CHECK THAT EVERYTHING WORKS!" before using as final board.

Thanks for the tips, they'll be taken into consideration without doubt.

NO.

That would be how you would instruct a 3 years old baby.

The ONE AT THE TIME should already mean doing each of the listed actions while cycling through the implied procedure:

• offline mode BEFORE
• each action in list
• check AFTER
• user test and report

We are talking to a board Admin, not to your or mine toddler nephew.

jaclaz

Maybe it should, but it wasn't clearly stated.

And trust me, Admins make mistakes, sometimes more that others because they are over confident.

Yes! we do have alot of confident team members. And spelling something out like you did is not a bad thing for such a task that is being undertaken. That way things wont be missed.

Congratulations, Nuno. Looks like the tranfer of the old forum content was successful. I can read the posts again.

Many Greetings and keep up your good work
MichaelZ

Thanks Michael!

And before I forget, happy birthday!


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Regarding boot-land.net - I've updated the status board of the current operations on the first topic.

I'm currently doing some tests with skins to see how it works. Some time ago Ed mentioned how the left column wouldn't look very well with smaller sized windows so I'm browsing and testing new visual styles.

It was not possible to install a fresh version of IPB, it would mean lose all the current forum attachments.

A couple more days and we'll be ready!

Will try to create Something.

To contextualize TheHive's previous post, I should explain that I've asked him to help with the design of new boot land logo to match the new visual style.

Thanks! I thought at first sight (due also to the capital in "Something") that TheHive got caught by a superiority complex , like in:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex



jaclaz

Links missed for "WinBuilder section on the 911cd forum" and "PC Help World forums" in current bootland page

Thanks for noticing, it's now corrected.

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Almost finished all the proper changes and clean up last night, the forum should be ready by tomorrow with some luck.

Forums are open to the public!

Still a lot of working going on during the next weeks.

I'll also open a support topic on the site feedback section so that changes can be further discussed.

Hope you like the new look!

Good news.




Bad news: NO. ( @TheHive, please sit down and take a big breath before going to the new site, I refuse to believe you were involved in using PAINT to write the title! )


jaclaz

No, it was me who did the logo to give more time to TheHive work without time worries.

I don't have paint installed, only gimp..

Nuno,

i cant connect to livexp server

also, JonF wrote some of my feelings about new design here

everything will be nicer in time

You have a future as network administrator , but please don't, don't, DON'T try making a living out of drawing/painting/designing....

...I wouldn't let you down , but Miguel deserves better than growing on the charity/assistance friends can provide...



jaclaz

eheh..

Bootland unavailable or is it just me Reported January 5 @11:35 EST

Failed to connect to web server

11:50 back on line no problems,

Was adding SVN support and the Apache server was not wanting to restart. Eventually figured out that this could be solved by performing a reboot.

Thanks for the report.

Down again............January o5 2010 5:12 EST
Hello.. want to try rebooting again???

Same for me. Boot-land hasn't been reachable last night and again this morning.

Regards,
Galapo.

Is this still the place to get updates? How about an update, is boot-land dead or alive?

Hi amalux,

the server seems dead since more than 24 hours ....

Hopefully someone can make it alive again ....

And unfortunatelly, the e-mail i sent to Nuno, is going into the same IP.
Today my provider wrote me that he cannot deliver since one day, and will continue to try another 4 days.

I tried an old e-mail account of Nuno and hope that it is not redirected ...

Peter

Thanks wimb

Funny how this happened, same time, last year

HI

@psc
It looks like all of Boot-land is down and WB sites,, If Nuno even gets Email.. he may answer in here.

Vista is only site i can acess.

I've contacted him and will let you know what I hear back.

Thanks and How are you doing Ed?

I tried 1-800-Nuno and I-800-psc but no answer,,,,,LOL

Right now I'm freezing. Our funace is dieing and will be replaced tomorrow.

Sorry to hear that ED, stay warn - some how!!

Yes its cold will be for another week? , so i decided to stay in and paint ... bad idea. :happy roll:

We just contact with psc and understood that the "old e-mail account" psc mentioned is alive since I contact Nuno recently with this "old e-mail account".

All boot-landers waiting Nuno

New error message when trying Boot-Land ...

IPS Driver Error


some one maybe working on it ,,,

I got a forbidden error, and after I refreshed I was able to access the site.

The boot-land server is still slow, but it is alive again ....

Thanks wimb
also all servers are alive too

only 911cd.net's email notification not working here, but it is another case

could not reach boot-land today

Sorry!

I've began moving to the US since two days ago. No cellphone, no internet and no time to get online were available during this time so I was very surprised and worried to see boot land offline.

It seems we are under siege from a possible DDOS.

I've tried to reboot the server during the morning a couple of times but the IPS error kept showing, then I had to leave to finish settling at this new location where I'm living and couldn't return until late night.

During the morning I've also sent an email to tech support, they promptly replied that were taking care of this issue but it's already night and nothing seems to have been fixed permanently.

Will keep working to see what can be done.

You can ping boot-land.net but all other services are offline, I can't even do a remote login.

Emails to nunobrito.eu are also disabled until the site is also back online with the server.


My apologies.

I think the servers miss you. As soon as they knew you were gone they went down.

Welcome to the cold NorthEast. Hopefully you brought your long johns.

Any news when will boot-land up again?

It's slowly going back to normal. I'm freeing up a many resources as possible and scheduling automated reboots to the machine so that pending connections can be canceled and free their memory as well.

Within a few days I hope that things go back to normal behavior.



Yes, could be. I now see that I can't be offline for more than 10 hours in a row that some disaster might occur.



Thank you. I actually did brought warm clothing but my shoes were not appropriated and my feet nearly frozen down after waiting 10 minutes in the bus stop..

I had never seen snow like this before, you really have winter around here..

Hello

as for weather,,, just wait till this weekend,,,LOL

maybe we need rebooted again,,, 12:39 EST Thursday 1-7-10

The "weather" in boot-land.net server seems to be rather randomly now.
The DDOS bots seem to make a good work.
Sometimes I can connect, sometimes not.

Because you are "Much" younger then me (around 12 years or so) , please allow me a suggestion to a "newcomer":
Be patient ... (In boot-land.net we here have the 'cheers' smiley)

Peter

Hi Peter I was talking about the Weather (outside) here in the North Eastern USA,, it has been around freezing all this year so far
This weekend is another cold snap, with more snow,,

I hope Nuno gets a good set of BOOTS ,, (shoes)

And I hope Ed got his furnace fix,, or replaced its to cold to go with out heat..

As for BOOT-LAND i will Live till it gets fixed,,,

(In boot-land.net we here have the 'cheers' smiley)
Peter

Ok, things seem to have calmed and boot land is back online.

Not really online
Sometimes online

Peter

http://whois.hm/boot-land.net
Still shows old nameservers.
Why don't you use your own private nameservers like ns1.boot-land.net instead of using everydns.com services ?