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Konstanz
QUOTE (fuwi @ Aug 27 2009, 05:39 AM) *
No!!
'This new utility' (MultiBoot_Bart-CD) http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...mp;#entry158496
is a plugin for the PEBuilder. Burn a new CD after a new build, you have now a Multiboot Bart-CD with a graphical bootmenu from which you can start BartPE from the CD,
or start other bootable tools (2 are included in the plugin). Also you have the option to reboot or shutdown the system from the bootmenu.

hope this helps!

fuwi

What about adding any of the UBCD4Windows MultiBoot plugins to the Fuwi BartPE MultiBoot CD?
NTFS4DOS?
PartedMagic?
UBCDOS?
or any others in general?
I would like to to add some but have no idea of the details of how to ...
Konstanz
Well I'm going to try to add the two Fuwi MB plugins from Fuwi BPE USB kickboot to the Fuwi BPE MultiBoot build ...
and maybe NTFS4DOS
The new Fuwi BPE USB kickboot does not ask about building the Kickboot.iso?
... maybe also the UCD4Win Easeus Partition Manager Multiboot plugin.
Where does one find the EPM iso for that?

I'm redoing my Fuwi USB sticks - 2 with BPE/XPE builds and one Fuwi BPE/XPE Multiboot CD.
I suppose I can still incorporate the latest PartedMagic with my Fuwi USB stick builds?
My BPE/XPE builds have very few apps/utils
(and so also fewer XPE Startmenu/Programs menuitem inf entries.)
I launch a separate nu2menu.exe & xml from the/a USB stick that I can update
when I update portable/install free apps/utils on the USB stick.
I like this USB/CD build complement SO much more than the CD build only ways of old
Konstanz
18September2010
I have successfully added NTFS4DOS from UBCD4W to the Fuwi USB multiboot.
The only way I have found to exit NTFS4DOS is by starting DFRGNTFS ...
(I tried FreeDOS once. I didn't find it too useful. I could only access the USB stick - labeled as c:\.
The key mapping was incorrect as well ...)
I hope/presume I can add NTFS4DOS to my Fuwi Multiboot BartPE/XPE CD ...

PartedMagic no longer publishes a USB download.
I just tried (unsuccessfully) to use the PM 5.5.iso with my Fuwi USB stick.
The error message is
QUOTE
Booting Parted Magic 4.4 (iso-boot)
(hd0,0)
map --mem /PMAGIC/pmagic5.5.iso (hd32)
Error 62: The number of heads must be specified.
The '--heads=0' option tells map to choose a value(but maybe unsuitable) for you
Press any key to continue...
I hope 5.5 will multiboot from Fuwi BartPE sticks & CDs. I hope maybe Fuwi will tell me what to do to boot PM5.5 ...
Ed_P
QUOTE (Konstanz @ Sep 18 2010, 11:42 AM) *
I hope/presume I can add NTFS4DOS to my Fuwi Multiboot BartPE/XPE CD ...

Unlikely. NTFS4DOS is a DOS app not an OS and has no use in BartPE systems and the same for this thread. BTW If it is invoked via the autoexit.bat the usual exit is to simply reboot DOS. If invoked via a DOS prompt the exit command should end it.

QUOTE
I hope 5.5 will multiboot from Fuwi BartPE sticks & CDs. I hope maybe Fuwi will tell me what to do to boot PM5.5 ...

The last version of PM to boot from GRUB4DOS is 5.3. Use it and you will be fine. See this thread for more info: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?s=&...st&p=164446
jaclaz
QUOTE (Ed_P @ Sep 18 2010, 06:19 PM) *
The last version of PM to boot from GRUB4DOS is 5.3. Use it and you will be fine. See this thread for more info: http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?s=&...st&p=164446

NO.

Both 5.4 (the fact that it doesn't work on Ed_P's hardware, is ANOTHER problem):
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=24023
there it is clearly stated how one thing is the built-in grub4dos menu.lst and ANOTHER is that it can boot or not with grub4dos,

and 5.5 can be booted from grub4dos allright:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=12491

jaclaz
Ed_P
QUOTE (jaclaz @ Sep 18 2010, 02:22 PM) *
Both 5.4 (the fact that it doesn't work on Ed_P's hardware, is ANOTHER problem):
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=24023
there it is clearly stated how one thing is the built-in grub4dos menu.lst and ANOTHER is that it can boot or not with grub4dos,

That's true. 5.4 did boot on my notebook and netbook. It just didn't have any keyboard or mouse support which made it useless. Who knows, maybe it will work on your equipment. And if you wait that boot-land thread may settle down with a solution for 5.5.
jaclaz
QUOTE (Ed_P @ Sep 19 2010, 04:29 AM) *
That's true. 5.4 did boot on my notebook and netbook. It just didn't have any keyboard or mouse support which made it useless. Who knows, maybe it will work on your equipment. And if you wait that boot-land thread may settle down with a solution for 5.5.

Please read that thread AGAIN, there is ALREADY a solution (actually TWO of them) for version 5.5.
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=12491&st=6
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...=12491&st=7

And explanation about "default" path for the .iso vs. "custom" path:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...12491&st=12

jaclaz
fuwi
I use this method for booting Parted Magic 5.5 from my BartPE-Sticks:
  • download pmagic-5.5.iso.zip
  • extract pmagic-5.5.iso.zip, you get pmagic-5.5.iso
  • extract pmagic-5.5.iso with WinRar, you get 2 folders: BOOT and PMAGIC
  • open the folder PMODULES in PMAGIC
  • rename PMAGIC_5_5.SQFS to PMAGIC-5.5.SQFS
  • copy the folder PMAGIC to the root of your the BartPE-Stick

on the BartPE-Stick add this to your menu.lst:
CODE
title Boot Linux (Parted Magic) \n Parted Magic
kernel /PMAGIC/BZIMAGE edd=off noapic load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 rw vga=791 xvesa loglevel=0 keymap=sg-latin1 sg_SG
initrd /PMAGIC/INITRAMFS
map --unmap=0:0xff

replace 'keymap=sg-latin1 sg_SG' with your keyboard layout, e.g. 'keymap=de-latin1 de_DE' for germany or 'keymap=it it_IT' for italian
(or delete keymap for US layout - other keymaps can be found 'syslinux.cfg' in folder BOOT of the extracted iso file)

fuwi
Ed_P
Thanks fuwi. happy65.gif

QUOTE (fuwi @ Sep 20 2010, 03:01 AM) *
[*]rename PMAGIC_5_5.SQFS to PMAGIC-5.5.SQFS

Why do you rename the file? hmm.gif Why does that work?
fuwi
This is a known problem on extracting the Parted Magic iso (all versions)

read this: http://ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showto...ost&p=79306

and this is from Parted Magic forum:
QUOTE
Re: pmagic-4.5.sqfs could not be found Live USB

Postby findmory » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:31 am
After spending all day working on this... I found the solution. Simple and sad.

The program I used to extract the files from the .ISO to copy them to the disc didn't handle all the filenames correctly! pmagic-4.5.sqfs went on the disc as pmagic_4_5.sqfs

fuwi
jaclaz
QUOTE (Ed_P @ Sep 20 2010, 02:12 PM) *
Why do you rename the file? hmm.gif Why does that work?


multidot?
uppercase?
RockRidge?

Remember that "uppercase" of - is _ whistling.gif

And JFYI:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...3529&st=211
and:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=12406
wink.gif


jaclaz
Konstanz
With some help from the UBCDOS forum I have added/booted UBCDOS 5.03 to/from my Fuwi MultiBoot USB stick. UBCDOS now has PartedMagic incorporated into the product. The UBCDOS PM has a FProt antivir addin. I would rather use PM through UBCDOS with FProt than right off the stick.
UBCDOS has PM 4.1. I would like to use PM 5.6 through UBCDOS and that endeavor is currently in process.
Konstanz
QUOTE (fuwi @ Sep 20 2010, 02:01 AM) *
I use this method for booting Parted Magic 5.5 from my BartPE-Sticks: ...
fuwi
I'd like to ask about booting Parted Magic in such a way
that we could/would see the boot option menu that PM displays?
That menu has a half dozen or so boot options:
Run from stick/disk; Run from RAM; Low-RAM sys & etc ...
cdob
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 22 2011, 04:41 PM) *
booting Parted Magic

CODE
title Parted Magic 6.1
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso || find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader ()
Assumption: one continuos file pmagic-6.1.iso
Ed_P
To ensure, and resolve if it's not, the ISO is contiguous I recommend SysInternals' Contig.exe.
Konstanz
QUOTE (cdob @ May 22 2011, 01:15 PM) *
CODE
title Parted Magic 6.1
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso || find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader ()
Assumption: one continuos file pmagic-6.1.iso

23May2011

Greetings.
Thanks for the code!

I tried this today on a Fuwi multiboot BPE CD and received the error message»
QUOTE
Error 62: Number of heads must be specified ... heads = 0 tells map to choose ...
so I have no idea what to do in response...
jaclaz
It may depend on the actual version of grub4dos you are using.
Try:
CODE
title Parted Magic 6.1
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso || find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
# map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /images/pmagic-6.10.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader ()


jaclaz
Konstanz
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 23 2011, 03:19 PM) *
It may depend on the actual version of grub4dos you are using.
jaclaz
I use whichever grub4dos version came with the Fuwi utility in question.
The multiboot CD grub4dos is bit out of date I guess.
cdob's code boots the PM boot menu when I boot my Fuwi USB stick
with a (contiguous) PM.iso on the stick.
The second menu.lst code boots the PM boot menu
when I boot my Fuwi multiboot BPE CD with a (contiguous) PM.iso on the CD.

HOWEVER, they both fail after searching for (and not finding) pmagic-6.1.sqfs.
This is the EXACT same problem I had/have when trying to boot PM
from a UBCDOS.iso on my Fuwi USB stick.
PM seems to search for sqfs on my local c:\ volume - based on the HDD LED activity.
Does/Has this work/ed for anyone else?

QUOTE (Konstanz @ Oct 18 2010, 09:16 AM) *
With some help from the UBCDOS forum I have added/booted UBCDOS 5.03 to/from my Fuwi MultiBoot USB stick. UBCDOS now has PartedMagic incorporated into the product. The UBCDOS PM has a FProt antivir addin. I would rather use PM through UBCDOS with FProt than right off the stick.
UBCDOS has PM 4.1. I would like to use PM 5.6 through UBCDOS and that endeavor is currently in process.
Parted Magic is almost like a portable dual boot partition - a Linux boot without installing Linux locally.
I downloaded FProt (free) for Linux and tried (unsuccessfully) to install it under a PM boot.
I have a dozen or so keys remapped in my XP registries.
Is there any way to remap individual keys under a PM boot?

Is there any way to exit FREEDOS to a menu or re/boot?

I enable the XPE helpsys.inf plugin, but my XPE boots will not open chm files ...
cdob
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 25 2011, 09:59 PM) *
with a (contiguous) PM.iso on the stick.

File name /images/pmagic-6.1.iso is hard encoded.
Do not change examples. Do not change names.

Update to a current grub4dos.
Konstanz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 25 2011, 03:59 PM) *
with a (contiguous) PM.iso on the stick.

QUOTE (cdob @ May 25 2011, 04:53 PM) *
File name /images/pmagic-6.1.iso is hard encoded.
Do not change examples. Do not change names.

I did NOT change the name to PM.iso. I used pmagic-6.1.iso.
a "PM.iso" is/was only "forum shorthand".

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 25 2011, 03:59 PM) *
Does/Has this work/ed for anyone else?
What could be the problem? Why is sqfs not found?

QUOTE (cdob @ May 25 2011, 04:53 PM) *
Update to a current grub4dos.
As far as I know the latest Fuwi USB utility has the latest grub4dos.
Anyway, I know nothing about grub4dos nor about updating to the latest...

What could be the problem? Why is sqfs not found?
jaclaz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 26 2011, 07:55 AM) *
What could be the problem? Why is sqfs not found?

We don't know.

Before you had a grub4dos problem.

Now you seem like having a problem with the actual .iso (internal of the Linux in it). dubbio.gif

I thought you were familiar with grub4dos.

You need to use command line (press "c" when you see the grub4dos menu).
Then enter (type) this and press [ENTER] at the end of each line:
CODE
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso

What is grub4dos feedback (message)?

Go on, one by one:
CODE
map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
map --hook


CODE
map --unhook
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /images/pmagic-6.10.iso (0xff)
map --hook


CODE
root (0xff)


CODE
chainloader ()


and post EXACT messages you get at each step (if any).

jaclaz
Konstanz
26May2011

Just to clarify something that has not been explicitly stated
CODE
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso || find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
means put the pmagic-6.1.iso in a directory named images off the root?
Fuwi puts images in a directory named BOOTIMAGES under GRUB4DOS.
Fuwi boots the pmagic-5.6.sqfs from pmodules in a directory name PMagic off the root ...
cdob
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 26 2011, 05:35 PM) *
CODE
ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso || find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
means put the pmagic-6.1.iso in a directory named images off the root?

Yes, that's it. Parted magic 6.1 does search a file /images/pmagic-6.1.iso at boot.

QUOTE
Fuwi puts images in a directory named BOOTIMAGES under GRUB4DOS.
Fuwi boots the pmagic-5.6.sqfs from pmodules in a directory name PMagic off the root ...

That's another approach. You asked about Parted magic menu.
Delete all files pmagic*.sqfs at USB.

Which menu.lst entry do you use?
Konstanz
I did delete the Fuwi PMagic files.
I use your lst menu entries on my Fuwi USB stick & the other entries on my Fuwi multiboot CD.
Both boot the PMagic boot menu but after I choose a PM boot option do not find sqfs ...

When I try the grub4dos command line, is there some way to print/dump the console output to a txt file?
After I choose an item from the PM boot menu, there is LOTS of output until
QUOTE
searching for pmagic-6.1.sqfs

so I will need some way to print the "console output" of the grub4dos command line entries.

By the way, I find that Auslogics or Defraggler (portable freeware) both work just fine
for checking the contig status of the USB stick files; both also have a GUI which contig.exe does not ...
fuwi
Integrating Parted Magic 6.1 (and up) in a USB-Stick which is created with the 'Bootable USB Drive Utility'

download InstallUsbPM.zip

1. Attach the USB-Stick to your PC.
2. Unzip InstallUsbPM.zip
3. Copy the folder 'BOOT' from the extracted ZIP-file to the root of the USB-Stick.
4. Open a command prompt in the folder 'INSTALL' of the extracted ZIP-file.
5. Verify the drive letter of the USB-Stick and enter 'syslinux.exe -d syslinux e: e:\BOOT\SYSLINUX\SYSLINUX_BOOTSECT.BIN' (e: = is my drive letter).
6. Delete 'ldlinux.sys' in the root of the USB-Stick.
7. Edit menu.lst in the root of the USB-Stick, insert a new menu entry:

title Boot Linux (Parted Magic) \n Minimal Linux distribution for hard drive partitioning and data rescue \n (Mac HFS+ is supported!)
find --set-root /BOOT/SYSLINUX/SYSLINUX_BOOTSECT.BIN
chainloader /BOOT/SYSLINUX/SYSLINUX_BOOTSECT.BIN

8. Download 'pmagic-6.1.iso' from http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=downloads and burn a CD.
9. From the pmagic-CD copy the folder 'PMAGIC' to the root of the USB-Stick.
10. On the USB-Stick goto folder 'PMAGIC\PMODULES'. Change the filename from 'PMAGIC_6_1.SQFS' to 'PMAGIC-6.1.SQFS'.

Now test the new menu entry 'Boot Linux (Parted Magic)' in the main bootmenu of the USB-Stick:
- is the 'back & forth switching' between the Parted Magic-Menu and the Main-Bootmenu working?
- are all Parted Magic-Submenus working?

Now edit 'SYSLINUX.CFG' in BOOT\SYSLINUX:
- delete all 'keymap=sg-latin1' if you have a US-keyboard or replace all 'sg-latin1' with your keyboard layout.

fuwi
Konstanz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 26 2011, 05:50 PM) *
When I try the grub4dos command line, is there some way to print/dump the console output to a txt file? ... there is LOTS of output ... so I will need some way to print the "console output" of the grub4dos command line entries

I would like to solve this sqfs not found problem.
Putting/booting the PM.iso & using the proper grub4dos menu entries would be much simpler.

Also, I especially need the PMagic low-RAM option (to work)
with my Fuwi multiboot (non-kickboot) BPE CD with PMagic.
That CD is for my PII which does not USB nor kick boot.
This PII plays multimedia files 24 hours a day while I work on my P4 laptops.
I'm not sure these new instructions can be adapted to build an iso to burn to a Fuwi multiboot BPE CD ...
My BPE+XPE inf/reg entries (without XPEinit entries) for the PII is all ready
except that the PMagic multiboot does not (yet) work ...
While UBCD4W would run OK on this PII, XPE seemingly will not.

I could/can/will also (sometime this year) build a UBCD4W multiboot CD
with gParted 0.3.4-11 rolled into UBCDOS 4.11.
UBCD4W has some basic/needed XP functionality that BPE (without XPE) does not.

Could/Would someone tell me about dumping/printing the grub4dos commandline output,
so I can run it and post the output here?
jaclaz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 27 2011, 06:09 PM) *
Could/Would someone tell me about dumping/printing the grub4dos commandline output,
so I can run it and post the output here?

You CANNOT sad.gif (AFAIK).

But, as I am trying to tell you, most of the several "LOTS of output until" comes NOT from grub4dos but from the actual PQmagic booting.
Please, remove each and any pmagic-6.1.sqfs from the stick.
Make sure the image is called pmagic-6.1.iso.
Make sure it is in a folder, directly under root \images\.
Example (as seen in Windows):
CODE
C:\images\pmagic-6.1.iso

Please note how in windows command line you use the backslash "\" for paths, whilst in grub4dos the Linux convention of using forward slash "/" is used.

Use command line and issue the commands detailed in my previous posts.

The output will be ONLY a few lines. (one or two in response to only SOME of the commands issued), you can jolt them down on a piece of paper, then type them on your next psot allright, or take (possibly clear) pictures of the screen with a digital camera (one from a handy phone would do also), post them on a free image hosting site and post links to them.
Or test in a VM like Qemu and post screeshots made with PRINT SCREEN:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Print_screen

jaclaz
Konstanz
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 27 2011, 02:05 PM) *
But, as I am trying to tell you, most of the several "LOTS of output until" comes NOT from grub4dos but from the actual PQmagic booting.

Ja, I already said that
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 26 2011, 05:50 PM) *
After I choose an item from the PM boot menu, there is LOTS of output until ...
But the previous posting repeats all kinds of things I already said/posted.

Anyway, here is the output.
Note: when/where I have typed «NONE» means that there was no output.
It does not mean that the output was «NONE» ...
QUOTE
COMMAND: ls /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
OUTPUT: pmagic-6.1.iso
COMMAND: find --set-root /images/pmagic-6.1.iso
OUTPUT: (hd0,0)
COMMAND: map /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
OUTPUT: «NONE»
COMMAND: map --hook
OUTPUT: «NONE»
COMMAND: map --unhook
OUTPUT: «NONE»

COMMAND: map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
OUTPUT: «NONE»

COMMAND: map --hook
OUTPUT: «NONE»
COMMAND: root (0xff)
OUTPUT: Filesystem type is iso9660, using whole disk
COMMAND: chainloader ()
OUTPUT: Load segment : 0x0 System Type : 0x0 System Count : 0x4
               Load RBA : 0x25 Boot Type : 0 = No Emulation


Viewing the pmagic-6.1.iso with 7-zip shows the following structure:
QUOTE
boot
pmagic
[BOOT]
mkgriso

pmagic-6.1.sqfs is inside pmodules which is inside pmagic ...
cdob
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 27 2011, 04:09 PM) *
Also, I especially need the PMagic low-RAM option (to work)
with my Fuwi multiboot (non-kickboot) BPE CD with PMagic.
That CD is for my PII which does not USB nor kick boot.

I'm confused:
Do you boot from a USB stick or USB hard disk?
Do you boot from a CD?
Are Parted Magic files locacted at USB stick, USB hard disk or CD?
Do you use PloP boot manager?
How do you launch Parted Magic?
Which Parted Magic version do you use?

Which hardware do you use?
Do you use a Dell?
jaclaz
grub4dos output is what is expected. thumbsup.gif

The problem is then in the actual Linux distro. w00t.gif

It is strange, since we have reports that the same exact version is working for other people with this same .iso mapping to (0xff) approach. unsure.gif

Can you try, with the same approach, an older version?

It is possible, though unlikely, that is hardware connected (and of course as cdob pointed out, if it's a Dell, everything is possible ph34r.gif).

Do you have a chance of trying the same approach and version on another PC?

cheers.gif
jaclaz
mbarnes
Hi


this entry in menu.lst works for me on USB memory stick and on a BartPE DVD
using grub4dos 0.44 on a several PC's


CODE
title Boot Linux Parted Magic ISO - (V6.1  May 2011) - Boot Menu
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /images/pmagic-6.1.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader (0xff)



I am working on Kaspersky Rescue disk 2010 on USB memory stick which works
(I used kasperkys USB installer for the rescue disk which creats rescueusb.iso)



CODE
# similar to syslinux - grub menu - rescueusb.iso loads rescue.iso (both in /rescue)
# requires  /liveusb    tag file
title Kaspersky Anti Virus Rescue boot disk 10 for USB - (May 2011)
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /rescue/rescueusb.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader (0xff)


I have not got the latest Kav rescue disk 2010 working on DVD can a expert give me a working bit of menu.lst ?

regards
Mike Barnes


Konstanz
30May2011

So I tried the lst lines from the previous post but same bloody result ...
PMagic boot menu loads, after choosing an option pmagic-6.1.sqfs not found

QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 28 2011, 07:13 AM) *
It is strange, since we have reports that the same exact version is working for other people with this same .iso mapping to (0xff) approach. unsure.gif

Can you try, with the same approach, an older version?

Do you have a chance of trying the same approach and version on another PC?

cheers.gif
jaclaz
What about anyone else's firsthand experience?
An older version of? PartedMagic? UBCDOS 5.03 has/had PM 4.9, and that had/has the same problem.
But I could try any version that I could download from SourceForge ...
I can try this on another PC sometime next month ...

QUOTE (cdob @ May 28 2011, 04:42 AM) *
I'm confused:
Do you boot from a USB stick or USB hard disk?
Do you boot from a CD?
Are Parted Magic files locacted at USB stick, USB hard disk or CD?
Do you use PloP boot manager?
How do you launch Parted Magic?
Which Parted Magic version do you use?

Which hardware do you use?
Do you use a Dell?
My PII XP laptop neither USB nor kick boots. All PE booting on the PII has to be done from a CD.
My other XP laptops (P4 class - not Dell) boot Fuwi USB sticks.
I don't know what PloP boot manager is.
I launch PMagic either by Fuwi's "run from RAM" method (that does not load the PMagic boot meu) or
by lst menu lines given in this thread (depending on whether from a CD or stick;
i.e. which version of grub4dos) that load the PMagic boot menu
The Fuwi "RfR" method boots PM 55, 56 & 61
I would like to boot PM from my Fuwi multiboot USB sticks & my Fuwi multiboot CD
through the PM boot menu ... I hope we solve this sooner or later.
Thanks for the help so far.
fuwi
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 09:59 AM) *
I would like to boot PM from my Fuwi multiboot USB sticks & my Fuwi multiboot CD
through the PM boot menu ... I hope we solve this sooner or later.
Thanks for the help so far.

OK, i have made an updated version of my old Multiboot Bart-CD plugin: Multiboot_Bart-CD-2.zip

It is prepared for multibooting BartPE and Parted Magic 6.1 from the CD, with the option to switch back & forth from the main CD-Bootmenu and the full PM-6.1 Boot-Menu.
The only thing you have to do is to copy the PM-6.1 files into a (currently empty) plugin-folder, please read the instructions in 'Multiboot-CD.inf'.

Last but not least:
edit 'ISOLINUX.CFG' in PMAGIC\BOOT\ISOLINUX:
- delete all 'keymap=sg-latin1' if you have a US-keyboard or replace all 'sg-latin1' with your keyboard layout.

To get the identical BartPE/PM6.1 multiboot-functionality for Multiboot USB-Sticks: please read the instructions in Post #25 of this thread.

fuwi
Konstanz
30May2011

I'm going to burn a PM61 CD and try out this new stuff.
I still hope to/we find a solution to the sqfs not found problem ...

Regarding Multiboot_Bart-CD-2»
I can tweak the new Multiboot-CD.inf name to Multiboot-CD2.inf?

I can tweak the contents to use gfx-PE_theme from FuwiMBUSB188?
(Is there any viewer for XP to see how these themes look?)

What about these [SourceDisksFolders] entries»
CODE
pmagic\BOOT=a,,1
pmagic\PMAGIC=d,,1
It seems to me the ,,1 flags can only be used with [SourceDisksFiles] not [SourceDisksFolders]

Multiboot_Bart-CD-2 has a pmagic folder with a "boot" folder in it.
I should copy the whole folder "pmagic" from the burned CD into Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic so Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic will then have the "boot" folder and a "pmagic" folder in it?
Inside Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic\pmagic will be the pmodules folder?

I can make the first entry in menu.lst»
CODE
title @ c:\ BOOT \n Find/Boot local Windows NT/2K/XP
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr || configfile /menu.lst
chainloader /ntldr
?
I can put all menu options in menu.lst and not use menu2.lst?
(Which language for editor syntax highlighting is best for lst files?)

I added FREEDOS from the MuBoUSB to my MuBoCD.
Is there any way to exit FREEDOS to a menu or (re)boot?

I also have NTFS4DOS as a MuBoCD image/option.

Which version of grub4dos is this? How can I see that myself? Only by booting?

QUOTE
I really know nothing about InfCacheBuild.
Last autumn while making XPE builds for the first time, I came across Sherpya's ICB.
Should I run your MakeNewISO.cmd or not?


Merci viel mal ...
FM_81
QUOTE
I still hope to/we find a solution to the sqfs not found problem ...
For my opinion the SQFS-problem occurs according to following reason; sequence during boot:
- you boot via GRUB4DOS
- you create in the bootloader a "virtual CD" as 0xff or hd32 or what ever
- you boot your linux-kernel and your initial ramdisk
- NO PROBLEMS UP TO THIS POINT
- but the linux-kernel knows in most cases NOTHING about your "virtual CD" from step two, because it wasn't compiled to do so
- so it will find here nothing

Possible solutions:
- build your own kernel OR
- resize the the initial ramdisk an include the SQFS in it OR
- unpack the ISO, and load all "in normal way"

Gretings, FM_81
cdob
QUOTE (FM_81 @ May 30 2011, 07:02 PM) *
- but the linux-kernel knows in most cases NOTHING about your "virtual CD" from step one

ISO file booting was supported in 2010 http://forums.partedmagic.com/viewtopic.ph...amp;t=983#p3670
Way back machine http://web.archive.org/web/20100102182710/...so-booting.html

Parted Magic 6.1 init script does mount ISO file still.
ISO file booting does work here.

Today Unetbootin is recommended http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=creating_the_liveusb

Is ISO file booting not supported anymore?

@Konstanz
If you like to follow this still, ask at Parted Magic forum.
Konstanz
QUOTE (fuwi @ May 27 2011, 07:35 AM) *
Integrating Parted Magic 6.1 (and up) in a USB-Stick which is created with the 'Bootable USB Drive Utility'

6. Delete 'ldlinux.sys' in the root of the USB-Stick.
ldlinux.sys was created on my stick as a hidden, system file;
so I was not sure at first if it had been created or not ...

When you say
QUOTE (fuwi @ May 27 2011, 07:35 AM) *
Now test the new menu entry 'Boot Linux (Parted Magic)' in the main bootmenu of the USB-Stick:
- is the 'back & forth switching' between the Parted Magic-Menu and the Main-Bootmenu working?
- are all Parted Magic-Submenus working?
Doesn't this have to be AFTER/WHILE trying to boot from the USB MuBo menu to the PMagic boot menu?
I don't understand how to test the new menu entry other than in a boot ...

When you say
QUOTE (fuwi @ May 27 2011, 07:35 AM) *
Now edit 'SYSLINUX.CFG' in BOOT\SYSLINUX:
- delete all 'keymap=sg-latin1' if you have a US-keyboard or replace all 'sg-latin1' with your keyboard layout.
Doesn't this have to be done BEFORE trying to boot from the USB MuBo menu to the PMagic boot menu?

These last two steps are unclear to me ...
fuwi
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
Regarding Multiboot_Bart-CD-2»
I can tweak the new Multiboot-CD.inf name to Multiboot-CD2.inf?
yes, of course

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I can tweak the contents to use gfx-PE_theme from FuwiMBUSB188?
you can use any gfx-file, just rename it to 'new-gfx-PE_theme' and put it to folder 'grub4dos_files'

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
What about these [SourceDisksFolders] entries»
CODE
pmagic\BOOT=a,,1
pmagic\PMAGIC=d,,1
It seems to me the ,,1 flags can only be used with [SourceDisksFiles] not [SourceDisksFolders]
doesn't matter, e.g. pmagic\PMAGIC=d,,1 and pmagic\PMAGIC=d works identical with [SourceDisksFolders]

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
Multiboot_Bart-CD-2 has a pmagic folder with a "boot" folder in it.
I should copy the whole folder "pmagic" from the burned CD into Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic so Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic will then have the "boot" folder and a "pmagic" folder in it?
Inside Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic\pmagic will be the pmodules folder?
correct, inside Multiboot_Bart-CD-2\pmagic\pmagic will be the PMODULES folder and the 2 files BZIMAGE + INITRAMFS

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I can make the first entry in menu.lst»
CODE
title @ c:\ BOOT \n Find/Boot local Windows NT/2K/XP
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr || configfile /menu.lst
chainloader /ntldr
i use this entry's:
title Find and Boot Windows NT/2K/XP from Harddisk \n Go back to menu if not found
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr || configfile /menu2.lst
chainloader /ntldr

title Find and Boot Windows Vista/Windows 7 from Harddisk \n Go back to menu if not found
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bootmgr || configfile /menu2.lst
chainloader /bootmgr

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I can put all menu options in menu.lst and not use menu2.lst?
yes, of course

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I added FREEDOS from the MuBoUSB to my MuBoCD.
Is there any way to exit FREEDOS to a menu or (re)boot?
download shutdown, add SHUTDOWN.COM to your FREEDOS
(to shutdown/reboot type shutdown at freedos-prompt)

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
Which version of grub4dos is this? How can I see that myself? Only by booting?
grub4dos-0.4.5b-2011-05-24 (the filedate is the version)
actual versions always here: http://code.google.com/p/grub4dos-chenall/downloads/list

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I really know nothing about InfCacheBuild.
Last autumn while making XPE builds for the first time, I came across Sherpya's ICB.
Should I run your MakeNewISO.cmd or not?
yes, otherwise you don't have the Kick-Boot feature in the bootmenu (read 'MakeNewISO.txt')

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
I still hope to/we find a solution to the sqfs not found problem ...
most often because of wrong chars in the filename!
this is not a joke! double-check the filename in PMAGIC\PMAGIC\PMODULES\
the name must be 'PMAGIC-6.1.SQFS' not 'PMAGIC_6_1.SQFS'

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 05:18 PM) *
(Which language for editor syntax highlighting is best for lst files?)
i don't know

fuwi
fuwi
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 09:05 PM) *
ldlinux.sys was created on my stick as a hidden, system file;
so I was not sure at first if it had been created or not ...
you can delete ldlinux.sys, it is not needed in this special boot-environment

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 09:05 PM) *
Now test the new menu entry 'Boot Linux (Parted Magic)' in the main bootmenu of the USB-Stick:
- is the 'back & forth switching' between the Parted Magic-Menu and the Main-Bootmenu working?
- are all Parted Magic-Submenus working?

Doesn't this have to be AFTER/WHILE trying to boot from the USB MuBo menu to the PMagic boot menu?
I don't understand how to test the new menu entry other than in a boot ...
of course you have to boot for testing the menu's...

QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 30 2011, 09:05 PM) *
Now edit 'SYSLINUX.CFG' in BOOT\SYSLINUX:
- delete all 'keymap=sg-latin1' if you have a US-keyboard or replace all 'sg-latin1' with your keyboard layout.

Doesn't this have to be done BEFORE trying to boot from the USB MuBo menu to the PMagic boot menu?
this is cosmetic only, to give the the build the last finish (Parted Magic works also with a wrong keyboard layout)

fuwi
Konstanz
8December2011
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 25 2011, 04:59 PM) *
I enable the XPE helpsys.inf plugin, but my XPE boots will not open chm files ...
This problem persists. I read in the forum that others have had this problem.
My solution is»chmExtra
a nice standalone exe ... I added to my plugin the reg entries the that exe writes ...
Ed_P
I have a plugin for ABCCHMviewer if your interested.
Konstanz
2Aug2012

One of my (3) USB sticks seems to have developed some problem.
Previously I could have the stick set as 3rd in line in the BIOS boot order,
choose the BIOS boot menu @ bootup,
select the stick (item #3); and the stick would load my Fuwi lst menu.

Now choosing the stick yields the error message "NTLDR not found";
but when I move the stick to 1st in line, the stick boots my Fuwi lst menu just fine.
Now I have to choose the boot menu to choose to boot from the HDD.
I am looking for a (new) menu entry for my Fuwi list menu to boot from the HDD.

(I would also like to "fix" this new "problem" with this USB stick.)

The lst menu item below does not work ... it boots the USB stick ...
I guess because the stick is NOW before the HDD in the BIOS boot order ...
is there something like "--ignore-usb"?
QUOTE (fuwi @ Sep 22 2010, 03:15 AM) *
@Konstanz
Try this in your menu.lst:
QUOTE
title Find and Boot Windows NT/2K/XP from Harddisk \n Go back to menu if not found
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr || configfile /menu.lst
chainloader /ntldr
fuwi
Konstanz
3Aug2012

I changed to / tried»
CODE
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /io.sys || configfile /menu.lst
-which did NOT boot the USB stick but gives me the "hal.dll corrupt/missing error message" ...
so now I am trying to resolve that ...
Ed_P
FWIW

On a U3 USB stick that I boot, sometimes the boot produces an error because the BIOS sees the CD portion of the stick first. I hit enter and then it sees the data portion of the stick and boots fine.

On another machine with a USB 3.x card added to it nothing boots from the new USB ports. I have to use an old original USB 1.x port hidden behind a trap door on the front to get the machine to boot from a USB stick, regardless of how I config the BIOS.
Konstanz
4August2012

The error message is
QUOTE
NTLDR is missing
not "not found" ...
Anyway, I always hit enter after that message, &
the laptop proceeds to boot the next item in the BIOS list ...

This stick boots a Fuwi USB-multiboot menu & so boots GRLDR (if I am not mistaken ...).
Possibly this laptop does not boot items chosen via the boot menu
the same way it would boot that same item when
that item would be booted via the normal BIOS boot menu order ... ???
i.e., a normal BIOS boot will boot GRLDR on the stick
but will NOT boot GRLDR on the stick when booting because of a boot menu selection?
Any ideas about "fixing" this?

I have a P4 laptop with USB 1.1 ports.
It took me a while to work out how to even boot a USB stick via the 1.1 ports.
Of course I would prefer to boot the stick via my USB 2.0 pcmcia card
but that cannot be done (as far as I can tell) UNLESS ...
I would install the Plop boot manager on this laptop ...
I just discovered Plop this week, and it seems that Plop could boot USB sticks from pcmcia cards ...

Fuwi (of course) has done a Plop review/analysis (which I [also] found/read this week ...)

Before I even consider putting Plop on this P4 laptop,
I want to try out Plop on my PII laptop (from 1998) with no BIOS USB-boot support.
If I could boot a Fuwi multiboot USB stick from a pcmcia card on that PII laptop, that would be great.
Based on my previous XPE-CD boot attempts on the PII,
it seems the PII does not have enough RAM (160mb) for XPE; and
so I would have do non-XPE BPE builds for the USB stick for the PII ...

The USB stick for the PII has started malfunctioning this summer.
Read/Writes from/to it are slow as molasses - when formatted as FAT or FAT32.
That was never a problem the previous 2˝ years.
I have no idea what could be the source of this problem.
When I format this stick as NTFS, R/W performance is back to normal ...
but there have (or maybe had) been repeated data corruptions ...
The Fuwi USB builder formats sticks with FAT32.
Could a Fuwi USB multiboot stick run from a stick with NTFS formatting?

I guess postings related to Plop should go in a new thread ...
Ed_P
QUOTE (Konstanz @ Aug 4 2012, 10:07 AM) *
The error message is
QUOTE
NTLDR is missing
not "not found" ...

Any chance the file is named ntldr rather than NTLDR?
Konstanz
4August2012

That already occurred to me ... I capitalized ntldr this morning ... to no effect ...

I would still/also like to re-solve this "hal.dll corrupt/missing" error message ... kb314477 says,
QUOTE
This behavior can occur if any or some of the following conditions are true:
The Default value in the [Boot Loader] section of the Boot.ini file is missing or invalid.
... The partition path in the Boot.ini file is not set correctly. ...
Because this hal.dll error only occurs when booting from the Grub boot menu when the HDD is NOT 1st in the BIOS boot order,
I am guessing there is some boot.ini complication ... or
maybe the Grub menu item could/should be tweaked since the HDD is NOT 1st in the BIOS boot order ... ????
Konstanz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ Sep 7 2010, 08:46 AM) *
What about adding any of the UBCD4Windows MultiBoot plugins to the Fuwi BartPE MultiBoot CD?
NTFS4DOS?
PartedMagic?
UBCDOS?
or any others in general?
I would like to to add some but have no idea of the details of how to ...
Well, I seem to have (re-)solved this item.
My MultiBoot USB stick MultiBoot main menu has -
- BPE/XPE (or UBCD4Win),
- DBaN 2.26, FreeDOS (from Fuwi), Gujin,
- MemTest86 4.0, MemTest86+ 4.2, NTFS4DOS,
- UBCDOS 5.11,
- Windows™ Recovery Console
& Parted Magic 6.6+F-Prot A/V (from UBCDOS 5.11)
QUOTE (Konstanz @ May 22 2011, 11:41 AM) *
I'd like to ask about booting Parted Magic in such a way
that we could/would see the boot option menu that PM displays?
That menu has a half dozen or so boot options:
Run from stick/disk; Run from RAM; Low-RAM sys & etc ...
My MultiBoot USB stick even has the multiple PartedMagic menu options that I previouly sought ...

Oh! I (almost) forgot ...
Eddie-Baby started sanctions against me ... No forum help ...
even blocking my IP address so I can't even browse the forum ...
let alone making any postings or create new (anonymous) accounts ...
keep up the "good work" ...
jaclaz
QUOTE (Konstanz @ Sep 25 2012, 05:57 PM) *
Oh! I (almost) forgot ...
Eddie-Baby started sanctions against me ... No forum help ...
even blocking my IP address so I can't even browse the forum ...
let alone making any postings or create new (anonymous) accounts ...
keep up the "good work" ...

Maybe this happened because you already subscribed with multiple accounts dubbio.gif:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...23183&st=37
really, why don't you try "talking" with Ed_P via PM?

cheers.gif
jaclaz
Ed_P
QUOTE (Konstanz @ Sep 25 2012, 11:57 AM) *
even blocking my IP address so I can't even browse the forum ...
let alone making any postings or create new (anonymous) accounts ...

And yet here you are. Which personally I am happy to see. happy62.gif
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