Hello gang. I am writing this post to help find a way to recover my netbook. I've successfully completed a build with BartPE. It is a windows XP pro with sp3 build. Problem is, I've discovered my hard disk is a SATA drive. I've read another topic within these forums that discussed a way to do another windows build with BartPE that can include SATA hard disk drivers/controllers. I can't seem to locate that thread at the moment, but I know it's around here. My goals are the following:

1. Get the SATA driver/controller
2. Add the driver/controller to the appropriate folder of BartPE so I can get the hard disk to be recognized.

Some back ground on how I got into the need to do this:

Using an HP mini 210-1000 Netbook. No Cd drive. This netbook has quickweb functions, allowing internet use outside windows, which is why I can still use the internet. I know the data on the hard disk is still there, because the Quickweb music player can navigate the folders on my hard disk to locate and play my music files. So the hard disk is there, it's data is intact.

A month ago, my anti-virus (Avast! Anti-virus) detected a malicious url and an object relating to that url. It blocked the url. Right after, I ran a thorough scan of my system. Then I ran a boot-time scan. Avast detected a couple objects and quarantined them. The next day, Avast began blocking the same url and object. So I ran a subsequent pair of scans, a thorough scan followed by a boot time scan. During the boot-time scan, instead of hitting "quarantine all" I accidently hit "delete all." so it seems I've deleted something critical. Windows fails to load once I select "Start OS" from the Quickweb function. There is no hard disk activity to indicate windows loads, and the screen turns black, and nothing happens. Not sure what Avast deleted. Whatever it did delete, it's stopping windows from loading, or recognizing the hard disk as being "there."

What I've done so far:

I made a bootable flash drive using BartPE, using a windows XP pro, SP3 cd. I just did a general build with default options and such. I used a friend's computer to complete the build using the CD. During web searching to find a solution, I learned about the issue B artPE has about not recognizing SATA hard disks. When I start windows with BartPE, my hard disk doesn't show up in the A43 file manager. In another thread, a user on this forum suggested driverpack.net which would contain the proper sets of drivers/controllers for SATA hard disks. I downloaded the driver pack for Windows XP. The driverpack I downloaded contains a lot of different drivers/controllers. Problem is, I don't know what controller/driver to include in the build. I can't access my hard disk through windows or BartPE (or quickweb) to determine the exact driver. So I cracked open the laptop and wrote down all the information on the label on the hard disk:

HD Info:
S/N: WXD1A3057410
P/N: 591193-001
CT: 2BBPQ00V2YS0K7
MDL: WD1600BEVT-60A23T0
Western Digital 160GB
DCM.HHCTJHB

A link of a google search of the model number: hhttp://www.upgradebay.com/c1_itemdetail.asp?rid=7&itemid=168852512&gclid=CNX2moT7waYCFRVx5QodXSsTJw takes you to a page where it tells you this drive is a SATA drive.

The driverpack i downloaded from driverpack.net contains all sorts of SATA drivers and controllers. I've learned I had to match the proper controller to my hard disk. I don't know what driver/controller to use.

I'm not sure if providing the system information from the netbook's bios setup information screen will help. but I will provide that information anyway:

HP Mini 210-1000 BIOS system information:

NOTEBOOK MODEL: HP Mini 210-1000
PRODUCT NUMBER: WP055UA#ABA
SYSTEM BOARD ID: 3660
PROCESSOR TYPE: Intel Atom CPU N450 @1.66GHZ
PROCESSOR SPEED: 1666Mhz
MEMORY SIZE: 1024Mb
BIOS VERSION: F.11
BIOS VENDOR: Insyde
SERIAL NUMBER: CNF01720GM
UUID NUMBER: 434E4630-3137-474D-C80AA95FF737
PRODUCT CONFIGURATION ID: 04A5100000002100000300000
FACTORY INSTALLED OS: Non Win 7
PRIMARY BATTERY SN: 01492 04/03/2010
WLAN FCC ID: QDS-BRCM1030

If anyone has any ideas on how to find the proper controller/driver I need, I'll be very grateful. Once I determine what driver/controller I need, I can then integrate the controller/driver into a future BartPE windows build.

Thanks for your help.

Add them all. DriverPack files aren't design nor meant to be picked apart. Follow the instructions in my sig for adding them.



BTW I don't mean add all Driverpacks, I meant add all the drivers in the MassStorage driverpack.

I downloaded the latest edition of the mass storage driverpack, number 11. While the package size isn't gigantic, there are well over 50 folders, each with sub directories and such. I am supposed to add each folder into the \scsi\ folder? the instructions for adding drivers and plugins to the BArtPE build seem a bit vague. They mention editing a file with a .oem extension textsetup.oem - a configuration text file) in some cases.

No.


Did you read the Help file noted above? Did you see the reference to the DriverPacks Base program? Did you install it?

Ed_P: Your link is helpful. When I get back to the house, I'll ild the plugin folder according to the instructions on the link.

I downloaded the MassStorage pack 10.11 for x86/Win XP. I'll download the base program and execute it as needed. I will reply back on the next steps or actions that occurred or any errors or issues that come up. I thank everyone who is helping me out with this! Your help is appreciated.

Ok, an update:

I was able to download and install the Driverpacks Base program.

I was able to download the Mass Storage Driver Pack 11.01 for Win 2000/XP/etc

I was able to run the Driver Packs Base Program successfully.

I followed the Help file referenced above and got the Plugin folder created.

I think I screwed up somewhere, because when I built the new build and tested it on the laptop, it says "Disk Error" "Press A Key To continue." This line is displayed on a black screen. No further loading activity ensues once this message comes up. The message comes up immediately after selecting "Start Windows" in Quick Web mode.

Here's what I think may have gone wrong:

When I went to run Pe-Builder again, I ran it from within windows, selecting Pe-Builder from within the c:\pebuilder3110a folder. I selected the source drive for the windows install files (the cd rom) and then left the output field as BartPE. I left both options to burn to media unchecked. I pressed Build and got a message "The source directory cpebuilder3110a already exists. Do you want to erase this directory and all it's contents?" I hit "No." I then followed the directions I used the first time I ran BartPE, so I opened a command prompt and executed "c:\peBuilder3110a\plugin\peinst\peinst.cmd" and Bart PE-Builder seemed to run normally. When it said the installation was complete, I safely removed the usb flash drive and tested it. That is when the Disk error message appears when trying to start up. (I also noted that the help thread I used had a later version of PE Builder, as it referenced PE Builder 3.1.3, while I'm using 3.1.1.0a. Not sure which is older. But I simply replaced any reference to 3.1.3 with 3110a.)

I may have also done something during verifying plugins. Part of the process of using the Driver Packs Base Program required me to look at the Plugins page of BartPE Builder. I opened Bart PEBuilder as per the help file instructions and got to the plugin page. I saw the 2 plugins that were supposed to be listed. I selected one, and thinking I needed to hit the "config" button, I did so. But when I did, a message saying about "erasing files" came up so I hit "Cancel" right away but despite, it said "<prep.> techniical blah i didn't get a chance to write down" Not sure if that did something to the driverpack or created an issue that cause the loading failure.

Not entirely sure. All I do know is that I spent the entire night completing this process (due to the lack of performance on my friend's computer where I created the windows build with Bart PE Builder. ). And now I got nothing to show of it. So not sure what I did, or what went wrong exactly.

The next course of action should be what?

1. Delete the ENTIRE existing PE Builder windows build that currently exists and all it's associated files/components and start over completely from scratch?

2. Simply redo the Driver Packs Base Program procedure again from scratch by deleting the driver pack mass storage driverpack and base program, then re-downloading and installing both to Bart PE Builder again?

3. Find a way to reinstall the SATA Harddisck controllers/drivers back to Windows somehow?

4. Find a way to fully re-format/clean sweep the windows partition? Not sure if i can do these last two, because without the SATA driver/controllers, the operating system can't seem to find the hard disc. The real odd part is, the Quick Web music player can find the hard disc and locate my music files, so something is missing between the OS and Hard disk. Apparently that "something" is somthing the quick web music player has, or else I would not have access tp my music files.

5. Any other ideas? Open to suggestions.

Dunno... looking for a solution still, but it seems so close yet so far. Frustrating at the least this has been. >.<

Yes, when in doubt, start again from scratch .

Mixing things has probably created the problem, BUT is the

the EXACT transcription of the error you are getting? :dubbio:

It may be something completely unrelated to the actual build and strictly connected to the USB thingy partitioning/formatting:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/135364-ins...ro/page__st__36

jaclaz

I agree with option 1. Start over. You don't need to redownload everything just reinstall everything.


Yes, 3.1.10a is the current version.

Add the MassStorage driver pack to your BartPE build again, and this time DO NOT press the "config" button, just leave it alone. If you're able to gain access to you Hard Disk try looking for the "aswBoot.txt" log file, there it will tell you what the Avast Boot-time scanner deleted. I believe it is found in the following location.

%:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\report\aswBoot.txt

I will definitely take your advice and not touch anything. I've obviously read a little too much into the help file's step-by-step guide.

I will also be sure to look at the directory referenced to see what Avast deleted and maybe I can restore the file back to where it was. Run a scan, and if it comes up bad, If it comes up bad, I'll quarantine it to the Chest instead of delete.

Thanks for your help GladiatorWarrior!



1. I think I failed to format the USB stick before I did the Bart PE install. per your suggestion, I will format the stick first, then try again. I formatted the first USB stick with a Bart Pe Build (but no SATA Drivers on that build. This new build I will be adding the SATA drivers.)

2. If that fails, I will delete the entire Bart PE Build that exists and begin the entire process over again.

3. The error message you are referencing is literally what the computer displayed. A black screen with a line of text at the top left of the screen: "Disk Error. Press any key to continue." When I pressed a key, the system just went dead. This message came up after Bart PE started loading from the USB stick (right after I hit "Start Windows?" From the Quick Web function.

Thanks jaclaz for your help!

Then it is not connected to the actual booting (MBR or PBR), if I get it right it happened AFTER having already booted.

Just in case, re-partition/format the stick anyway, using RMPREPUSB:
http://reboot.pro/7739/

jaclaz

The direct link to the RMPrepUSB utilities homepage is:

http://sites.google.com/site/rmprepusb/

Yes, you are correct. The error mesage appears just after Bart PE starts to load from the USB stick. My other USB stick with the BART PE build that does not have the SATA drivers works just fine. I formatted that stick before I put Bart PE on it. I am going to format the new USB stick and redo the entire windows build from scratch, including adding the mass storage driver set from driverpack.net as outlined above acouple posts. I half suspect I borked up something when i clicked on the config button when I didn't need to. Or maybe I missed a critical step in moving the windows build to the USB drive.

A new update:

I spent the night rebuilding a new Windows Build with BartPE.

I completely removed, uninstalled and then deleted the entire previous build off the system I used to create the build. So I had a clean slate.

1. I used the USB format utility RMPREPUSB as suggested and formatted the USB stick per the directions provided with the utility.

2. I installed BartPE onto the system. Ran it to create the windows build. During the process, it returned one error. I copied down the complete text of the error:

Error: MoveFileEx()"C:\pebuilder3110a\BartPE\pebE81.tmp" to "C:\pebuilder3110a\BartPE\i386\inf\nettcpip.inf" returned error: 5: Access is Denied
Error addLine() failed 0: The operation completed successfully line(Line 11 string "nettcpip.inf, Registry.MS_TCPIP.PrimaryInstall,HKR,Ndi,HelpText,,%MS_TCPIP HelpText%) <--- one continuous line. It is broken up due to the window text wrap.
Error: doInAppid() file="C:\pebuilder.inf" failed

1 Error, 0 Warning

Processsing Driver ID's
Checking for missing files
Builder has stopped because there are 1 build errors.
Building Done...
There were 1 errors and 0 Warnings.
Use [<<] and [>>] buttons to jump to Error/Warning
Saved this log to c:\pebuilder3110a\pebuilder.log

I got this same error when I ran the first build the first time around. That build works just fine (it is the build without SATA hard disk drivers).
Not sure if this error is causing any issues, but I know it relates to the TCPIP networking protocols and such. I don't think it's a problem that would prevent BartPE from loading. Input on this is appreciated. If this does affect loading, let me know any possible solutions. If it's nothing to worry about, then great. It's something I can take care of after getting the netbook fully functional again.

Another error I ran into, this time using Pe2Usb:

Opened the command prompt to run Pe2Usb.

Followed the usage instructions. Got the following error:

(Screen dump)

USB Target set to "F:"
Checking Drive "F:"
Checking Files...
Error: File c:\pebuilder3110a\srsp1\ramdisk.sys" not found!
Please check the pe2usb.text for details.
Aborted!
There was an error. Script aborted.

(End screen dump)

I checked the pe2usb text file and it said something about getting windows server 2003 service pack 1. There is a link to this file provided, but that link is a dead link. Apparently I have to extract a couple files from the Server 2003 service pack 1 archive again. Thing is, I do not know where to get this file since downloads of this file are self-extracting archives (.exe's). Can I still extract files from the SEA's per the pe2usb.text's instructions? I remember doing this step with the first build, but not exactly what type of file I used, a self-extracting archive (.exe) or a straight archive.

Any ideas? Thanks again. you've all been a great help. The USB flash drive does not have the build on it yet. pe2usb would have been the final step of this process.

watch this video, it explains how to do this process of extracting the files needed from WinServer2k3 SP1.

I hope this helps.

Are you not seeing this?? It's isn't saying Builder was successful or Builder ended with only a minor error. It says Builder STOPPED, it didn't finish building.

When you start your car and the oil light comes on do you drive away regardless?

Do a search of the files in your PEBuilder folder for the character string "pebE81.tmp", what file refers to it?

That video is excellent. Now I have an excellent guide to the entire process for the most part. Thank you!

@Ed_P:

I did a search of the pebuilder folder and got the file "pebE81.tmp" from the c:\pebuilder3110a\BartPE folder. This file EXISTS on the system.I don't know what is causing the error to come up If you read the error lines, it appears there is a problem with tcpip network protocol, and accessing whatever service or data is required to work with the nettcpip. If the presence of pebE81.tmp is a problem, then what should be done? There is no "reference to this file." It simply says pebE81.tmp in the search results. What exactly do you mean by "what file refers to it?"

1. The mere existence of a file does not cause it to be copied. Something, someplace is referencing that file and that has not been identified.

2. The output of PEBuilder is the BartPE folder thus it can NOT be used for input to PEBuilder. Your PEBuilder config is wrong.

Someone has done that recently (and I presume they were also pretty much qualified ):
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/ferrari-f...fire-2011-02-04



jaclaz

Here's what I entered when I ran PE Builder:

Source of Windows Installation Files:
E:\ [the cd drive]

[ Second field left blank ]

Output:
BartPE

Under media output:
[X] None
[ ] Burn to CD\DVD
[ ] 3rd option (forgot what it was, but left it blank)

Part of the issue may have stemmed from the fact that I may not have placed the setupldr and ramdisk.sys files into the build. After viewing the video that was provided, I was able to review the entire process again. I missed the extraction of the two files mentioned above. I downloaded the Windows 2003 Server Service pack 1 archive and need to extract the two files. I'll work more on this tonight when the other computer is available.

@ja_claz: O_O that's a bad way to blow up your ferrari. >.<

@ Technowraith

Go to your plugin folder and look at the .inf files to see if there is a reference to "pebE81.tmp", if there is, place a semicolon ";" before it to comment it out, so it won't be seen as an instruction by BartPE. The less problematic "solution" is to uninstall BartPE, and start all over again, reinstall BartPE ( it will take less than a minute) and accept defaults at installation. Extract the 2 files needed from WinServer 2k3 SP1. Add the mass storage driver pack, and build. Also try copying your Windows source files to the hard drive, it will be better because the copying process will be faster and to avoid damage to your Windows CD.

These options look fine.


I've never added those files to my PEBuilder and my builds run fine. Before worrying about getting BartPE to a USB drive lets concentrate on getting BartPE built clean first. And lets do that without adding Win 2K files to it.

BTW there are other means of running BartPE from USB sticks without using PE2USB. We can cross that bridge later also.

I'm going to try all of your suggestions. I've already downloaded the necessary files and such. All I have to do is grab the right files and things.

I will post further updates.

Great news!

I followed the video step by step and was able to redo a new Windows Build complete with SATA hard disk drivers. It took quite a while because the computer I was using is horribly underpowered for the tasks it needed to do, so processing the windows 2003 server file took over an hour. >.<

In the end, things worked out great.

The next step is to add some plugins for PE Builder for Malware Bytes and/or Avast Anti-virus. These two programs are the main anti-malware programs I use. The cause of the issue is still not known yet. I looked in the %:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\report\aswBoot.txt which lists all of the files Avast Anti-virus moved or deleted in recent activity (in this case, the last scan right before windows failed). The last file activity was 2 files being moved to the Quarantine Chest. There isn't anything that looks like a system file, although I could be wrong. I'll need to post the screen dump of the aswBoot.text and see what ideas come forward.

Malware Bytes and Avast Anti-virus are not included in the suite of plugins for PE Builder. PE builder's plugin help file isn't exactly helpful when it comes to including plugin programs it does not already have within it's suite of plugin programs. I'm wanting to add both of these programs so i can run malware scans off the USB stick. I'm thinking that unless the files Avast moved to the chest were important core system files, then it's a virus or malware that is preventing Windows from loading. All my data is still intact on the hard drive. I took last night as an opportunity to pull off any data I wished to save, in case I have to re-format the hard disk. Not sure how a hard disk reformat will affect Quickweb, but I know I don't want to lose Quikcweb functionality for the time being.

If any of you have added plugins to PE Builder before, let me know! I'll be looking through the forums for a thread relating to this step of the operation. IfI don't seeany, I'll be opening a new thread.

Congratulations, I'm glad you finally got BartPE working.

creating plugins fro BartPE is many times an arduous process, specially for complex programs such as antivirus programs.

Try UBCD4Win
It is a pre-configured program [based on BartPE] that allows you to create a bootable CD/USB pendrive that contains plugins for many AV programs such as Avast, Spybot, Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, etc...

Regards,

GW

"Thank you for the link! I've a fair chunk of the FAQ's and such for UBCD4WIN, and came across this entry in the General FAQ:

Build fails with USB device?

Short answer, the USB device is evidently too slow for our UBCD4WinBuilder program. If data isn't processed quickly enough the build will fail. Do not build UBCD4Win from or to a USB device, always use one that is connected to your computer internally to avoid build problems.
Mentioned originally in this post, please ask questions there is necessary: http://ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2742"

Does this mean I can't create a bootable USB flash drive like I just did with BartPE? The process is essentially identical, but it includes the BTS mass storage driverpack, which i'm assuming included driver support for SATA drives. That eliminates the added step of re-doing the driverpack integration that is required with a BArtPE build. However, there seemsto be no explicit mention of being able to place the build onto a USB flash drive here in the general FAQ. That's not to say it can't be done, but If possible, has anyone here used UBCD4Win and made a bootable usb flash drive with it?

Building is not booting.
FAQ entry refers to build: reading files from USB drive.

UBCD4Win includes UBUSB to build a bootable USB flash drive.

All right. I have a spare USB flash drive, so I'll try a UBCD4Win build. I'll migrate any further discussion of the UBCD4Win build over to the appropriate forum, as BartPE troubleshooting is no longer needed.

Thanks to all who contributed in helping get BartPE running!

Actually you don't have to go that far.

http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showforum=41