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matteochirco
Hi im new to the forums, so I thought I could ask a problem I had.

I made Bart PE on a CD using this tutorial on youtube. I made an .iso file using the PE builder program and burned on a disc using IMGburner. I used win xp sp1 to create the disc. I tried booting from the CD using a dell precision 360, and it turned out to boot successfully. So next I tried booting again on a IBM Thinkpad laptop and that also worked. And now I tried booting on a Dell optiplex 745, but as soon I see the windows logo,the bsod immiediatly comes up. STOP 0x0000007B just like ths image. I also have no access on the bio settings cause I forgot the password.

I don't think the CD is the problem cause it worked well on 2 other computers.

Please help me on getting bart pe to work. I cannot afford of having the blue screen on me. All i need to do on Bart PE is change some registry. Unless theres another program ike bart that would allow me to change registry. I really REALLY need Bart to work on this computer.

Can anyone please help me??
jaclaz
Since that model has a SATA disk, you may need to either:
  • change into BIOS to "IDE emulation mode" (that you cannot do since you cannot access the BIOS)
  • add to your build the needed SATA drivers for that model (or use the driverspack)


The 0x0000007b STOP ERROR means inaccessible boot device and could be caused also with a problem with enumerating devices, expecially on Dell's that have a long record for NOT being standrad, there is a modified NTDETECT.COM available, but that should only be able to fix problems when booting from USB, and from what I can get you are booting from a "normal" CD ROM (not USB connected).

jaclaz
matteochirco
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 12 2011, 09:18 AM) *
[*]change into BIOS to "IDE emulation mode" (that you cannot do since you cannot access the BIOS)

If i ever bypass the password, can you tell me how exactly I change bios to IDE emulation mode. Because i really dont know
GladiatorWarrior
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 09:39 AM) *
If i ever bypass the password


To clear the password of your BIOS, you will have to locate the pertinent "jumper" on your computer's mother board, and change it's position. It is usually labeled "CLEAR, CLEAR CMOS, PASSWD, PASSWORD" and/or located near the cmos battery, but to be on the safe side consult your computer's manual for specific directions, and DON'T forget to follow safety procedures when messing around inside a computer. thumbsup.gif

QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 09:39 AM) *
can you tell me how exactly I change bios to IDE emulation mode. Because i really dont know


You need to first gain access to the BIOS so you can make any changes. It depends on the BIOS you have to change to "IDE emulation" to know where this option is located, etc... again you'll have to check your computer's manual for specific directions.

QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 08:28) *
I really REALLY need Bart to work on this computer.


Since you want BartPE to work, and not your Windows OS, then a better solution would be as jaclaz suggested to add the "Mass Storage" driver pack to your BartPE build. To do so, follow this guide.

I hope this helps you,

Regards

GW
jaclaz
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 04:39 PM) *
If i ever bypass the password, can you tell me how exactly I change bios to IDE emulation mode. Because i really dont know

Most board have a setting like that, cannot really say specifically, it is usually "IDE Emulation Mode", or "IDE Mode", (as opposed to "AHCI mode") examples:




Also, cannot say if it can work on a Dell:
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd

A suitable media is the UBCD:
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

jaclaz
matteochirco
QUOTE (GladiatorWarrior @ May 12 2011, 11:47 AM) *
Since you want BartPE to work, and not your Windows OS, then a better solution would be as jaclaz suggested to add the "Mass Storage" driver pack to your BartPE build. To do so, follow this guide.


What does that do exactly? Is there any video tutorial for that, so it's easier for me.

I looked on the page you gave me and im not sure where to start
jaclaz
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 06:03 PM) *
What does that do exactly?


It adds the needed drivers (and many more).

Of course you can add only the driver for your Dell, but the procedure is not as easy as using the DriverPacks approach.

In case read here:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21226

QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 06:03 PM) *
Is there any video tutorial for that, so it's easier for me.

I looked on the page you gave me and im not sure where to start


Following the step by step tutorial (which also has pictures)? dubbio.gif

How do you think that a video could be easier than that? w00t.gif

jaclaz
GladiatorWarrior
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 11:03 AM) *
What does that do exactly? Is there any video tutorial for that, so it's easier for me.

I looked on the page you gave me and im not sure where to start



Nope, I don't think there is a video tutorial. Before I forget, you'll have to also download & install BitTorrent since this is the only way the DriverPacks can be downloaded. Then what you will do is download the Mass Storage driver pack (which is as its name suggest a large collection of storage drivers). Now that being said, you will need to download & install the DPsBase program, this is the program that will "slipstream" the drivers to BartPE. Follow the directions on the link in my previous post. If everything goes ok, you will should see the "# DriverPacks.net - Mass Storage, 11.01" plugin, displayed in your plugins menu. Then just create another .iso image, and lets see how it goes.

Regards,

GW
matteochirco
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 12 2011, 12:48 PM) *
It adds the needed drivers (and many more).

Of course you can add only the driver for your Dell, but the procedure is not as easy as using the DriverPacks approach.

In case read here:
http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?showtopic=21226



Following the step by step tutorial (which also has pictures)? dubbio.gif

How do you think that a video could be easier than that? w00t.gif

jaclaz


Ok then, i'm going to try and make another Cd using that guide and see if it works, let's pray that it does wink.gif
matteochirco
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 12 2011, 11:48 AM) *
Most board have a setting like that, cannot really say specifically, it is usually "IDE Emulation Mode", or "IDE Mode", (as opposed to "AHCI mode")


I checked the bios setting for my system. I found that the SATA operation setting had: RAID on. What does this mean?
Ed_P
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 12 2011, 02:55 PM) *
I checked the bios setting for my system. I found that the SATA operation setting had: RAID on. What does this mean?

It means it's not in IDE mode. hmm.gif
jaclaz
QUOTE (Ed_P @ May 13 2011, 05:37 AM) *
It means it's not in IDE mode. hmm.gif

Well, NO sad.gif, it is far WORSE ph34r.gif than that.

THREE different settings:
  1. IDE emulation
  2. SATA/AHCI
  3. RAID


The RAID one has NO sense whatever unless you have configured a RAID array (you need AT LEAST two disks to do this).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

If the system is set on RAID (and you have more that one disk) you SHOULD NOT change it to IDE or AHCI, you need the drivers.

jaclaz
matteochirco
QUOTE (jaclaz @ May 13 2011, 02:22 AM) *
Well, NO sad.gif, it is far WORSE ph34r.gif than that.

If the system is set on RAID (and you have more that one disk) you SHOULD NOT change it to IDE or AHCI, you need the drivers.

So does one disk have to be Bart PE and the other is empty? I don't understand
jaclaz
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 13 2011, 02:30 PM) *
So does one disk have to be Bart PE and the other is empty? I don't understand

Let alone BartPE.
BEFORE you even thought of making one that Dell machine was working, right?

A RAID is an ARRAY of diskS.
You don't have an ARRAY of one single disk.
The machine EITHER has a single disk (and consequently the setting in BIOS as RAID is wrong or unneeded) OR it has more than one disk (and consequently the setting in BIOS as RAID may be right).

If the machine has ONLY ONE disk, the RAID setting in BIOS can be changed.
If the machine has more than one disk, DO NOT, for ANY reason, change that setting.
If the machine has only one disk you may change this setting.

jaclaz
matteochirco
QUOTE (GladiatorWarrior @ May 12 2011, 10:47 AM) *
Since you want BartPE to work, and not your Windows OS, then a better solution would be as jaclaz suggested to add the "Mass Storage" driver pack to your BartPE build. To do so, follow this guide.


I just followed the guide, and it worked. Thank you soo much biggrin.gif
GladiatorWarrior
QUOTE (matteochirco @ May 16 2011, 03:52 PM) *
I just followed the guide, and it worked. Thank you soo much biggrin.gif



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